Gryphon Mojo S Review
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eagle3333
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I think money is less relevant here, Mike. You could argue the Mojo S is seriously overpriced. There are no technical changes to the previous Mojo, only cosmetic, and the previous price was half as much. I’d say the unfairness of comparison lies in pitting a 3-way tower against a 2-way standmount. The Dyn really ought to fair better. Actually it is more coherent on complex passages where Mojo has a tendency to smear a bit. However, as Alex says previously, Mojo doesn’t sound like an ordinary standmount. To prove the point I actually find Mojo bass to have more slam and presence than the 30. The 50 would be a different story in terms of going lower but I don’t know if it would time any better than 30 with Gryphon amp and that’s the issue for me.
I’d happily pay the extra 20k for Pantheon - the issue isn’t money but a 12’ x 24’ room size - just not enough width. I wish it were different! When I had them in my room the bass was mad. However, unbeknown to me I had terrible power issues which I've now sorted with dedicated lines. So perhaps it would be better. Still wouldn't solve the problem of Pantheon being so visually dominant in the lounge, though..
I’d happily pay the extra 20k for Pantheon - the issue isn’t money but a 12’ x 24’ room size - just not enough width. I wish it were different! When I had them in my room the bass was mad. However, unbeknown to me I had terrible power issues which I've now sorted with dedicated lines. So perhaps it would be better. Still wouldn't solve the problem of Pantheon being so visually dominant in the lounge, though..
eagle3333
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Majestic, Alex!
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Hi Ian!
Although not a question for me, I will answer a couple of points )
The price of the previous Mojo in Europe in 2015 (just before the premiere of "S") was around 19,000-21,000 Euros with racks. And in standard paint.
In model "S", the company slightly changed the crossover settings. And the design. The sound of the previous model is a little brighter, in my opinion.
By the way, these beauties came to my salon yesterday!
They sound beautiful.
But the sound of Mojo is more interesting to me !!!
Although not a question for me, I will answer a couple of points )
The price of the previous Mojo in Europe in 2015 (just before the premiere of "S") was around 19,000-21,000 Euros with racks. And in standard paint.
In model "S", the company slightly changed the crossover settings. And the design. The sound of the previous model is a little brighter, in my opinion.
By the way, these beauties came to my salon yesterday!
They sound beautiful.
But the sound of Mojo is more interesting to me !!!
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Hi Ian!
Although not a question for me, I will answer a couple of points )
The price of the previous Mojo in Europe in 2015 (just before the premiere of "S") was around 19,000-21,000 Euros with stands. And in standard paint.
In model "S", the company slightly changed the crossover settings. And the design. The sound of the previous model is a little brighter, in my opinion.
By the way, these beauties came to my salon yesterday!
They sound beautiful.
But the sound of Mojo is more interesting to me !!!
Although not a question for me, I will answer a couple of points )
The price of the previous Mojo in Europe in 2015 (just before the premiere of "S") was around 19,000-21,000 Euros with stands. And in standard paint.
In model "S", the company slightly changed the crossover settings. And the design. The sound of the previous model is a little brighter, in my opinion.
By the way, these beauties came to my salon yesterday!
They sound beautiful.
But the sound of Mojo is more interesting to me !!!
eagle3333
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Hi Ian!
Although not a question for me, I will answer a couple of points )
The price of the previous Mojo in Europe in 2015 (just before the premiere of "S") was around 19,000-21,000 Euros with racks. And in standard paint.
In model "S", the company slightly changed the crossover settings. And the design. The sound of the previous model is a little brighter, in my opinion.
By the way, these beauties came to my salon yesterday!
They sound beautiful.
But the sound of Mojo is more interesting to me !!!
Hey Alex,
Great images as usual and that's the finish I'd have if I was going to get them. They do look very cool. 'Beautiful' is exactly how I describe their sound; a bit too beautiful! Mojo brings a little more speed and raw excitement, I think.
Thanks a lot for putting me right on cost and changes. Gryphon don't say anything about the crossover changes. The S is on the bright side with the wrong speaker cable so I don't like to think what the original was like. I guess this is why you can get -5db resistors to drop in.
I've been trying Jorma Unity, all copper cable. There's no brightness at the highest frequencies like I get with the Naim SL, which is silver over copper. Sound is very even, less detailed but still detailed enough; but gives less sense of the size of the recording venue. I'll try Jorma Origo but wonder whether to just get VIP as it must work with Mojo S. Problem is I can't demo it. You said you thought VIP a bit dry, I think. What did you mean by that?
Thanks!
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Hi Ian!
I tested this cable.
Excellent played to the speakers of Mojo!
There was a beautiful diamond in the sound!
The entire line of Jorma cables is coming to me soon!
I tested this cable.
Excellent played to the speakers of Mojo!
There was a beautiful diamond in the sound!
The entire line of Jorma cables is coming to me soon!
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Gryphon Mojo S !!!
In general, it was a very interesting test!
The first time I heard a terrific tandem of speakers Gryphon Audio and amplifier from Dan D’Agostino!
In my opinion it was an unforgettable sound!
Here is only the first part of a big test!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly4e-wEwvLo
In general, it was a very interesting test!
The first time I heard a terrific tandem of speakers Gryphon Audio and amplifier from Dan D’Agostino!
In my opinion it was an unforgettable sound!
Here is only the first part of a big test!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly4e-wEwvLo
eagle3333
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Excellent production, Alex. Great filming and superb sound recording. Congratulations. ~I think it's the best on YouTube. I have an option on ex demo Pantheon. So now I decide between Pan Theon and Mojo S. But I think I have to be sensible in my 12' wide room.. My usual question - what's the speaker cable?! I'm about to order VIP..
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Alex, Mike, anyone - is it worth replacing the 4 cylindrical feet on Mojo stands with Gryphon spikes? My floor is wood. Just wonder whether any further isolation benefit is available.
TechnicalPie
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Thank you, Ian, for your kind words!
About the speaker cable. VIP is a very good option! But Gryphon cables need to be heated for a long time.
Be careful with the purchase of the Pantheon! They have a great sound but ... a lot of bass! Very bass! I have them in the demo room. (130 sqm). And sometimes I want them to have less bass)
About the speaker cable. VIP is a very good option! But Gryphon cables need to be heated for a long time.
Be careful with the purchase of the Pantheon! They have a great sound but ... a lot of bass! Very bass! I have them in the demo room. (130 sqm). And sometimes I want them to have less bass)
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You would have to experiment. We didn’t use anything extra.
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These things can be put if you need to make the bass more assembled, elastic, clear. I don’t think it should be done for Mojo! And for sure the Pantheon!
For example, I do not have this)
For example, I do not have this)
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Thanks Alex. This was what I observed originally. I’ve ordered Mojo anyway. I just thought I might ask the dealer to bring Pantheon to demo with an eye to a future change.
I’ll try Argento Flow before I order VIP
I’ll try Argento Flow before I order VIP
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Thanks Both. Stillpoints had a great effect on my Dynaudio towers. I thought I might make triangular oak platforms with Stillpoint feet for Mojo but it’s a lottery as to the result and I definitely wouldn’t be happy if I lost any ‘warmth’.
I made a discovery. Essential to unplug Diablo from wall when changing xlr’s. Not enough to turn off with remote control. If I don’t do this sound becomes very harsh and compressed. Took me a while to figure out what was going on.. Perhaps the same with all Gryphon amps?
I made a discovery. Essential to unplug Diablo from wall when changing xlr’s. Not enough to turn off with remote control. If I don’t do this sound becomes very harsh and compressed. Took me a while to figure out what was going on.. Perhaps the same with all Gryphon amps?
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That’s a great space you have there Alex. If you sometimes find too much bass with Pantheon there then for sure I have no chance! They do look stunning in piano black.
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Alex/Mike - I'm missing the big soundstage of my previous floor standers. The Mojo is very good, especially as the volume goes up, but would a pair of subs give me a bigger soundstage as well as more extended bass, especially at lesser volume levels? Pity Gryphon don't make a 3-way smaller than Pantheon! Thanks.
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Yes, I think the subs would help. Something fast ideally.
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Thanks, Mike. I was thinking REL S510. I prefer the smaller size of Dynaudio Sub 3 but worry that, like my Dyn floorstanders, they may be too slow in my context. Do they need to be in phase- ie same distance from me as Mojo or, if they come in below, say, 60hz will it make no difference? I know nothing of sub culture so your knowledge is welcome and appreciated. Thanks.