Gryphon Audio. Probably the best gear in town?

Bobolaclune said:
Garth with respect, the Product and the Business-Marketing plan are two entirely separate things. "Well above home made" ?? This stuff is built to the nth degree , better than anything else I've come across in terms of attention to detail, build quality , component usage , etc. This is world-class gear pretty much at the pinnacle of what's being done. And a one-year non-transferrable warranty ? Pretty much standard operating terms I think. Very few manufacturers offer Pass or Bryston-like transferability....certainly no-one at the Gryphon quality level. Vitus, VAC , Magico, Esoteric, dCs..... zero transferability. And service FYI is available in NA for anyone that owns Gryphon product - either Legacy models or voltage-converted units.
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Bob, ARC too re warranty transfer.

Mike, they got that cool flyin lion too.
 
Anyone that's interested in Gryphon gear in general, or my ownership experience feel free to PM me. I'm going to steer clear of issues regarding Flemming's business plan for the NA.
 
Bobolaclune said:
Garth with respect, the Product and the Business-Marketing plan are two entirely separate things. "Well above home made" ?? This stuff is built to the nth degree , better than anything else I've come across in terms of attention to detail, build quality , component usage , etc. This is world-class gear pretty much at the pinnacle of what's being done. And a one-year non-transferrable warranty ? Pretty much standard operating terms I think. Very few manufacturers offer Pass or Bryston-like transferability....certainly no-one at the Gryphon quality level. Vitus, VAC , Magico, Esoteric, dCs..... zero transferability. And service FYI is available in NA for anyone that owns Gryphon product - either Legacy models or voltage-converted units.
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Not putting the gear build down just a lot of cash to have gear you have to email a dealer across the pond to get to the manufacture.

I read the Gryphon web site they have some strong statements about other builders about updates and new models if you are that critical you most likely think you are doing it right . Just IMO their Warranty could be say 5 year and transferrable . This is not cheap gear.

I have Ayre not saying it is like Gryphon but they do have good updates and service. I have delt with others who never answer a email or fix any thing. That is when a company like Ayre has value to you. The statements made by Gryphon just raised a red Flag is all.

The one company I got no where with on problems made me see RED if you get my POINT.
 
I owned an older Gryphon Linestage preamp years ago. When one of the power supplies stopped working they were very helpful in getting me in contact with a service center in the USA to help with the repairs.

Now fast forward to the present. Like others have said, it is very frustrating that I have to go thru a dealer outside of the US to buy a product. I emailed Gryphon directly since there is no local dealer in Saudi Arabia (same problem as when I was in the USA). They told me to use the closest dealer to me. The problem is, I can't order from Israel and have it shipped here. It's not worth the headache that it would cause. I've emailed dealers and none have responded. I think the biggest problem is the language barrier. I can't expect a dealer from Italy, Poland, Germany, etc. to write in English.

Anyhow, they make a great product that not only looks good, but, is built good and sounds great. The fact that they don't have NA distribution is sad. That's a huge market that is missing out on such quality components.
 
So Gryphon is well built sounds great been around 30 years and all the NA importers have passed on it or Gryphon has passed on them. The owner goes to the NA trade shows so he knows the game. There is another problem here what is it and it is not one reviewer looking for a free be .
This seems like a very good chance to own a orphan .
 
matt_zak said:
I owned an older Gryphon Linestage preamp years ago. When one of the power supplies stopped working they were very helpful in getting me in contact with a service center in the USA to help with the repairs.

Now fast forward to the present. Like others have said, it is very frustrating that I have to go thru a dealer outside of the US to buy a product. I emailed Gryphon directly since there is no local dealer in Saudi Arabia (same problem as when I was in the USA). They told me to use the closest dealer to me. The problem is, I can't order from Israel and have it shipped here. It's not worth the headache that it would cause. I've emailed dealers and none have responded. I think the biggest problem is the language barrier. I can't expect a dealer from Italy, Poland, Germany, etc. to write in English.

Anyhow, they make a great product that not only looks good, but, is built good and sounds great. The fact that they don't have NA distribution is sad. That's a huge market that is missing out on such quality components.
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It's actually not that big , Asia is where it's at 20+ yrs and counting ....
 
A bit more Gryphon from Munich 2016
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a.wayne said:
I first saw and heard Gryphon at the 1990 Chicago CES, i thought then as now how beautiful crafted and built their products looked , it was the era of Apogee and Krell , Apps were everywhere and if you wanted to sell amplifiers you better can drive them.

Gryphon if memory serves me were using Duntech Sovereigns , a speaker also favored by Manny Huber (FMA) as he had also used them himself for show Demo's, they were Huge and expensive , BTW did i say it was the era of Apogee .. :)


There was one famous reviewer who like to or could hold manufactures ransom and did at times , fortunately we now have the internet or companies like Gryphon would have faded away, the gate keepers cant swing that bat like they used to ...




Regards
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Well-restored apps with Graz panels are still the best. The Full Ranges and Grands out do anything out there IMO but need space.
 
The FR for sure are special and they will sound different from the traced diaphram models. I have done alot of experiments over the years with traced vs straight foil , trace is more dynamic , better on jazz and instruments , straight foil on the other hand has a very pure sound , voices are rendered naked and they are here, harder to drive due to the extra mass ( kills sensitivity ) and low-Z load ...


Good stuff
 
a.wayne said:
The FR for sure are special and they will sound different from the traced diaphram models. I have done alot of experiments over the years with traced vs straight foil , trace is more dynamic , better on jazz and instruments , straight foil on the other hand has a very pure sound , voices are rendered naked and they are here, harder to drive due to the extra mass ( kills sensitivity ) and low-Z load ...


Good stuff
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I have heard the pure ribbon the FR. Pure bliss. The bass was coming in waves down the room and was the best reproduction of Mahler 2 I heard. Great woodwinds. These guys restore it with Graz panels, the bass panel is especially considered much better than the original, the frame is 10 times sturdier, and crossovers can be modded as well as taken active. I heard a well-restored Grand too and will be listening to one more shortly. Do you have an apogee?

For those who this this is OT, Gryphon will be extremely well-suited for apogees :scholar:
 
I remember those days when Apogee, Krell, Mark Levinson and Gryphon were all the rage.

Gryphon always stood out but was expensive.
 
bonzo said:
I have heard the pure ribbon the FR. Pure bliss. The bass was coming in waves down the room and was the best reproduction of Mahler 2 I heard. Great woodwinds. These guys restore it with Graz panels, the bass panel is especially considered much better than the original, the frame is 10 times sturdier, and crossovers can be modded as well as taken active. I heard a well-restored Grand too and will be listening to one more shortly. Do you have an apogee?

For those who this this is OT, Gryphon will be extremely well-suited for apogees :scholar:
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No apogee's currently , but i do currently run a Ribbon/Hybrid similar to the Gen 1 and i have had them in both configurations (traced vs solid foil) I'm also very familiar with the apogee sound (all models) but have never heard the updated stuff from Henk or Graz..

Btw i have been following you guys (on WBF) world trek and re-discover of apps and line source speakers in general, once exposed no way to listen to or live with the dynamic compression of point source speakers, your misery begins.

IMO , Horns come pretty close , but never with the same natural Timbre.. I'm also pretty surprised to see apps being run with toobs thou and last but not least, I'm a big T20 fan over test matches , who has time for test matches .. :)

Regards
 
a.wayne said:
IMO , Horns come pretty close , but never with the same natural Timbre.. I'm also pretty surprised to see apps being run with toobs thou and last but not least, I'm a big T20 fan over test matches , who has time for test matches .. :)

Regards
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I thought you were US based??? You in the UK?
 
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