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Hello everyone,
my name is Chiara and I work for Analogy Records, an Italian audiophile Reel to Reel Record Label.


We produce Original Master Tapes using our own recording studio, where the best gear and equipment is available.


I'm glad to be here and I'll do my best to contribute. :)
Also, if you have any questions about our activities and products, I'm happy to hear them.
 
Hi Chiara - welcome to Audioshark. Some of us are familiar with Analogy Records. I think you have a good thing going, but to be honest with you, after reading that you digitize your tapes for transfer, I was disappointed. Why can you not do tape to tape transfers? The Tape Project has had tremendous success doing this.
 
Welcome to the forum Chiara, thank you so much for joining.
 
Chiara, welcolme!
I'm very curious about your company's name.
Will you be pressing LP records?
Or, as Mike has mentioned above, will you be doing analogue tape transfers?
It seems a strange name to have chosen if you are not (currently) doing either records or analogue ;)


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Mike said:
Hi Chiara - welcome to Audioshark. Some of us are familiar with Analogy Records. I think you have a good thing going, but to be honest with you, after reading that you digitize your tapes for transfer, I was disappointed. Why can you not do tape to tape transfers? The Tape Project has had tremendous success doing this.
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Hi Mike, thanks to you!!


We do not "digitize" tape for transfer, as well as we don't do copies as TTP and other compamies do, it's a very different and till now, unique product.


Our own recording studio is an hybrid facility, like every world-class recording studio, with yes, a digital 192/32 multitrack recording system with top notch converters and a full analog tube summing mixer that is connected directly to the Studer, without any compression or other mastering techniques.


The philosophy behind this choice is that we believe it is better to have a Master Tape directly from the original source rather than doing copies (with all the artifacts inducted by the coping process itself), even if from analog-to-analog (more noise on noise, and increased wow and flutter).


So, no 1st or 2nd generation copies, only Master Tapes that comes out directly from the recording studio system, no tape wearing from the source reel, no tape that are stored for months or even years before being sold, fully customizable tape characteristics (emulsions, speed, format and eq curve).


We produce our Artists, from scouting to promoting their live activity via exclusive private concerts for our customers, and we own the 100% of the rights on our albums.


TTP is doing so well because they do what they do in a perfect way, getting licence for duplicating third part albums in a small quantity, we instead offer very different features. It's just good to have a different choices... :)


Our Director is writing an extensive article about every aspect of the modern music production techniques, to better explain all the process, we hope to have it ready in few weeks, and should be very interesting!
 
tunes said:
Chiara, welcolme!
I'm very curious about your company's name.
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Hello Tunes :),
the reason for the name "analogy" is that we produce master tapes, that is the very best in analog media: it came naturally to us choose a name that recalls that world (Analog).
In addition, quoting Wiki, "The word analogy can also refer to the relation between the source and the target themselves, which is often, though not necessarily, a similarity, as in the biological notion of analogy."

tunes said:
Will you be pressing LP records?
Or, as Mike has mentioned above, will you be doing analogue tape transfers?
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We are a Record Label and, as such, what we do what is very clearly explained here: https: // en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_label (I'm just providing the link so you can easily find a quick but effective explanation :))

tunes said:
It seems a strange name to have chosen if you are not (currently) doing either records or analogue ;)
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In fact, we do release analogue products - our products are not digital ;)
 
Chiara - I understand what you're saying, but people who are truly into analog don't look fondly on digital transfers, regardless of how your color it. The way I see it, the process is going A to D and then D to A. Those converters impart their own colorations and "sounds" on the music - no matter how good they are. If your method was the best, don't you think The Tape Project would be also doing it? It's your business and you are free to do as you choose, but I know you will enjoy much more sales if you followed a similar method to the Tape Project. I can't see there being hundreds or thousands of each copy of tape being sold since there isn't many of us crazy tape heads around. Maybe, just maybe, the answer is "the first X tapes sold are direct Master to tape copies" - if people miss out, they can get the tape from the 32/192 digital master. Just a thought...

Just my two cents. I'm glad you're here and perhaps you can tell us a little more about your upcoming exciting projects.

Also, I'm curious how Analogy Records views DSD. Assuming you continue on this path of A2D/D2A, have you ever considered DSD for storage/digital conversion purposes instead of 32/192 PCM?
 
Mike said:
Chiara - I understand what you're saying, but people who are truly into analog don't look fondly on digital transfers, regardless of how your color it. The way I see it, the process is going A to D and then D to A. Those converters impart their own colorations and "sounds" on the music - no matter how good they are.
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Yes Mike, every piece of gear gives its own coloration to the sound. For that reason every recording engineer use many and very different microphones to track sounds, coupling different mic preamps with those mics. Let's say that a microphone affects the sound with its coloration on a 70%, the mic preamp with a 20% and the A/D converter with a 10%. People are "worried" about digital and ignore completely the 90% of the process that translate the physical movement of the air into electric signal.

Have you ever seen the frequency response of the (probably) most famous microphone in the world, the Neumann U47? It's is far, far away to be flat, so the music you're listening to, any music, from any time and/or from any source, is strongly colored from the very beginning compared to the physical, live listening...



Mike said:
If your method was the best, don't you think The Tape Project would be also doing it? It's your business and you are free to do as you choose, but I know you will enjoy much more sales if you followed a similar method to the Tape Project.
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We don't say our method is the best compared to other companies, we just do things differently from TTP (and similar), we're a record label AND a recording studio, so we do things in the best way for our vision and philosophy. As well as, TTP can not do the same things we do because they aren't Producers or have their own recording studio (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Our fun, joy, energy and enthusiasm in producing music starts with talent scouting, then signing agreements with the Artists, working with them on the songs, recording and producing the album, mixing, publishing and distributing our efforts on tape and finally promoting even the live concerts.
Without offence to anyone, for us, just duplicating is not that fun... :)
Again, it's just great for you guys to have a choice, TTP is an excellence in their field (coping tapes from other tapes), we are an excellence in ours (producing Original Master Tapes), we are glad we don't overlap each other.

Mike said:
I can't see there being hundreds or thousands of each copy of tape being sold since there isn't many of us crazy tape heads around. Maybe, just maybe, the answer is "the first X tapes sold are direct Master to tape copies" - if people miss out, they can get the tape from the 32/192 digital master. Just a thought...
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Real, authentic analog to analog copies MUST be done in a very limited quantities because of the tape wearing. You will not have the same sound from copy #1 to copy #50.
We're aware that is a very niche market, which is perfect for an "artisanal" Italian Record Label as Analogy Records. Few people served but with the maximum quality!
Anyway we are thinking about having our catalog on hi-res digital download in late 2016, and as complimentary version to our Premium Line customers.

Mike said:
Just my two cents. I'm glad you're here and perhaps you can tell us a little more about your upcoming exciting projects.

Also, I'm curious how Analogy Records views DSD. Assuming you continue on this path of A2D/D2A, have you ever considered DSD for storage/digital conversion purposes instead of 32/192 PCM?
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There is no DSD format in the recording industry, it's a final user format, any DAW and converter you will find in any recording studio is linear PCM. :)
 
Chiara - it is my understanding that there are several studios recording direct to DSD. I could be wrong, but I thought Cookie Meranco of Blue Coast Records was a pioneer in this. Her blind tests showed that recording to tape was number one, but recording directly to DSD was a very close second.

"The performances were recorded in multi-track direct to DSD 2.8 (direct stream digital) on the Sonoma System and mixed live at CAS to the KorgMR2000S to DSD 5.6."

http://bluecoastrecords.com/news/wed-09032014-1028/free-downloads-of-live-recording-at-cas-2014

An interesting read here: http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2013/09/11/219727031/what-does-a-song-that-costs-5-sound-like
 
For sure, but you are referring to the mixdown media. Blue Coast performed a direct, non multitrack recording, from the mixer directly to DSD and that's perfectly fine.
Instead, we work with the Artists also on the song arrangements, we have guest stars maybe days after the main recording,we overdub and "produce", let me say, it's the most complicate way to produce a record, but it is also the most creative! ;)
 
Chiara, welcome & am so pleased to hear that yet another company is trying to do music as it should sound on a recorded media.
:hi::wave::hi:
 
yeah, sorry for the rude introduction..... sometime we forget ourselves.....!!!!!
 
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