Good and not so good speaker/amplifier pairings

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What are some good pairings for speakers and electronics? Some bad pairings?

e.g.
Sonus Faber with XXX
Magico with XXX
Wilson with XXX
etc.
 
Avantgarde’s need tubes. If I ever find a SS amp that works, I’ll let you know. Even the XA25 wasn’t a match IMHO.

Magico: In no particular order, Constellation, D’Agostino, Gryphon, Soulution, Pass, Luxman, Spectral, SimAudio. They like power. But they’re really amp friendly, they just like current/power.

Wilson: Constellation, Ayre, ARC.

Harbeth: Luxman, Audio Research.

Sonus Faber: ARC.

Focal: Ayre

Verity: VAC, Luxman, Gryphon

Tannoy: Shindo

That’s a start.



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Good;

Wilson Audio / D’Agostino
Snell Acoustics / D’Agostino
Vandersteen / Audio Research
Focal / McIntosh

Not so Good;

Wilson Audio / McIntosh






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What are some good pairings for speakers and electronics? Some bad pairings?

e.g.
Sonus Faber with XXX
Magico with XXX
Wilson with XXX
etc.
Forgive me, but from a rational, reality. etc. viewpoint, there are no such generalizations by brand.
You could say that specific Amp brand/model X paired well will specific Speaker brand/model Y, but not entire brands and all models. Some brands having been in existence for 80+ years, having lots and lots of models.
Speaker impedance magnitude/phase angles matter, as does amp output impedance, low impedance drive capability, etc.
Then there is taste and what individuals think is a "good match", which can be anecdotal personal opinion and mere preference.
My 2c

cheers,

AJ
 
I have to agree with AJ on this one, however in the year or so that I have had my KEF's...

Good:
T+A AMP 8
ARC VT-50
Goldmund Job

Not So Good:
PS Audio M700
Quicksilver Silver 88
 
I played around with an old Anthem amp, McIntosh, also borrowed a Mark Levinson for a couple of days with my Kefs. Bryston sounds the best so far. I wouldn’t mind trying a dan d'agostino or soulution, but the cost is just out of my budget.

We’re redoing part of our house, so my stereo is taken apart and in a guest bedroom. I’ve been thinking about maybe selling some of it and putting a new and improved set up together.


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I have to agree with AJ on this one, however in the year or so that I have had my KEF's...

Good:
T+A AMP 8
ARC VT-50
Goldmund Job

Not So Good:
PS Audio M700
Quicksilver Silver 88

See Randy, with my Kefs, the 201/2 and the older pair of 104/2 when I had my Quicksilver mid-monos' the KEF's sounded great, of course we are not pushing ultra loud playing. .
 
I agree with Mike about the Magico M3 needing power. A stereo VAC 200iQ just didn’t sound “right”. The sound was just OK and very slightly hard and bright, and definitely lacked bass. I was totally shocked at the transformation of the sound when I added a 2nd 200iQ and ran them as monoblocks. Warm, rich, detailed, huge soundstage and highly musical. 2 VAC 200iQs are a great match but 1 not so much. The M3s needed the power.
 
See Randy, with my Kefs, the 201/2 and the older pair of 104/2 when I had my Quicksilver mid-monos' the KEF's sounded great, of course we are not pushing ultra loud playing. .

Yea Chris, the Quicksilver sounded good, some days; but were very finicky.... some days they were just weird. I have never owned amps that were more finicky. I would have thought something was wrong with them but I had sent them to Mike Sanders.... so????

I never push ultra loud playing :) I was actually considering another First Watt... but just not quite enough power for an only amp. The T+A is not big power, but more than enough... and very sweet sounding!
 
Forgive me, but from a rational, reality. etc. viewpoint, there are no such generalizations by brand.
You could say that specific Amp brand/model X paired well will specific Speaker brand/model Y, but not entire brands and all models. Some brands having been in existence for 80+ years, having lots and lots of models.
Speaker impedance magnitude/phase angles matter, as does amp output impedance, low impedance drive capability, etc.
Then there is taste and what individuals think is a "good match", which can be anecdotal personal opinion and mere preference.
My 2c

cheers,

AJ

+1 on this AJ. It wouldn’t be wise to either dismiss or accept a manufacturers entire product line on the basis of matching amps to speakers.

Look at the specs on both amp and speakers but most importantly listen listen listen.
 
Hi Mike, I'm curious about the T+A gear with the larger Magicos. Thank you.

Superb. The T+A is smooth on top (despite some guy posting on another forum the other day it was “bright”). Quite the contrary. Probably one of the smoothest on top I’ve ever heard. Very Ayre/Luxman like in that regard.

T+A has good meat on the bones and a balanced sound with good bass control. So yes, a great fit with Magico.


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I had Sonus Faber Liuto floor standing paired with CJ Premier 140 and my First sound pre. That kicked some butt. Good power and energy.

The Altec Lansing on the Sonus Faber were defiantly more accurate, but lost the energy.

The Altec Lansing with the Pure Audio is very nice.
 
Bad pairing- Magnepan's and low current amps and amps that lean to the sunny side of neutral. But as usual, YMMV.
 
Avantgarde’s need tubes. If I ever find a SS amp that works, I’ll let you know. Even the XA25 wasn’t a match IMHO

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What preamp was used with the XA25?
 
What preamp was used with the XA25?

A few months ago I was at Mike’s and we tested the XA25 using an ARC Ref.6, VAC Renaissance pre and also a Lampizator GA as a pre-amp.
It is not that the XA25 sounded bad because it sounded pretty good, but any tube amp in comparison sounded much better and the difference was immediately apparent.
Everthing becomes more relaxed with a greater ease and the midrange is much more like the actual voice or instruments vs. a reproduction of the recording.
 
A few months ago I was at Mike’s and we tested the XA25 using an ARC Ref.6, VAC Renaissance pre and also a Lampizator GA as a pre-amp.
It is not that the XA25 sounded bad because it sounded pretty good, but any tube amp in comparison sounded much better and the difference was immediately apparent.
Everthing becomes more relaxed with a greater ease and the midrange is much more like the actual voice or instruments vs. a reproduction of the recording.
Thanks. Kind of a stupid question. Knowing Mike, of course tubes were in there somewhere. But good to know y'all were thorough and tried 3 different ways.
Parker
 
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