GigaFoil v4 Inline Ethernet Filter

still-one said:
Due to interface issues with my network I no longer have any of the devices in my set-up. The oreder they were introduced was Ethernet cable, GigaFoil with standard power supply, then Keces unit. My inability to resolve the interface issues prevented me from a long term evaluation with the full set-up. My post was based on what I heard during the preriod I had them all installed. If I could have resolved my issues I would have gone back to the standard power supply for a longer trial.
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Thanks Jim for the explanation, I hope you get it all worked out.

Ken
 
I am using a Transparent ethernet cable right now. The improvements I heard were after adding only the GigaFoil and standard power supply. When the Keces arrives, I'll replace the stock power supply and listen for improvement. As the cables come in, I'll replace the Transparent with the Sablon and AQ as the final piece. I've made the mistake of making too many changes at once, it becomes impossible to isolate what made the change and to what degree. Should be fun...

I use standard in wall ethernet cable to my modem. From the GigaFoil, I'll use either the Sablon or the AQ. It's too long a run to replace the in-wall.

Dave
 
knghifi said:
I ordered gigaFOIL & Keces from Mike. Not sure about gigaFOIL but Keces and PC new so took ~100 hours for everything to break in
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Re break-in - agreed - not sure whether it was the Keces or the gigaFOIL, or both - but if I had to bet, it'd probably be the Keces.
 
I use standard in wall ethernet cable to my modem. From the GigaFoil, I'll use either the Sablon or the AQ. It's too long a run to replace the in-wall.

Dave[/QUOTE]

As I've been reading over the last year about the development of the Uptone EtherRegen Switch, one question I'm left with is the relative importance, or unimportance, of the lan cable upstream of the Switch to the cable downstream. My thought is to use my short AQ Diamond downstream after the Switch direct to my DAC.

But, it also occurs to me that the Uptone Switch, as it's described, and if it lives up to their design intentions, might reduce an ethernet cable like the Diamond to a moot point. I'll plan to listen and compare the AQ to Blue Jean 6A (whenever the EtherRegen finally comes out).

I also wouldn't be surprised if the AQ still makes a positive influence.

I have the same questions for use of cables with other Switches from Acuvox and Linear Solution, as well as the Gigafoil.
 
The aqvox SE > diamond > dac definitely benefitted from the diamond in my system vs any other cable I tried. We may never know about your uptone question... they seem to be taking forever. Hopefully good things come to those who wait! ;-)
 
I've looked at the AQvox which seems nice but currently I don't need a switch. I use the W20 and Apple TV and manually switch the cable which seems like it would get old but has never bothered me. Can a switch added in the mix improve sound? I've always thought less is more in terms of additional circuitry but I'm no expert. I looked at the Uptone LPS also, I read good things about it. The switch seems to be taking longer than expected.

Dave
 
A switch is not necessarily adding devices. Many people use their router as a switch. Think of a setup with the following audio devices. A NAS, Roon Nook, endpoint and or DAC that is ethernet ready. The router is bonding these devices together passing signals in amongst them. The router is not designed for high quality audio . A hi-fi audiophile switch takes on the duties that router was serving. The hifi switch generally has much better clocking and isolation as well as a lower noise floor due to a superior power supply. You're not adding a device, your redistributing through a better device.
 
SuperDave said:
I've looked at the AQvox which seems nice but currently I don't need a switch. I use the W20 and Apple TV and manually switch the cable which seems like it would get old but has never bothered me. Can a switch added in the mix improve sound? I've always thought less is more in terms of additional circuitry but I'm no expert. I looked at the Uptone LPS also, I read good things about it. The switch seems to be taking longer than expected.

Dave
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Rex is right, and your in the same boat I’m in with multiple devices Fed an RJ45 cable.

You will benefit from an Audio switch on all your devices and if your budget allows feed it a GigaFoil as well - I wrote my findings on a separate thread


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When I get my DAC upgraded with a Ethernet input card built into the DAC I will probably get a gigafoil. For now I am USB connected between my server and DAC so the extra isolation is not as important to me. It mostly get negated in my topology. The switch was a pretry big improvement with streaming and NAS stored music.
 
Dave, I agree with Rex and Ultrafast. You have an impressive system and I believe that a low noise switch or a GigaFoil are a must for that system. On the other hand what Uptone is preparing is not an LPS (they already have it, the Ultracaps LPS 1.2), but a low noise switch that they will foreseeably call EtheRegen.
 
Rex, Ultrafast, Francisco,
Thanks for the tips. Streaming has always been for casual listening and I've been pretty happy with the sound, I usually spin cds for my favorite music and use Tidal for music exploration. The delta between steaming Tidal and spinning cds is huge to my ears, adding the GigaFoil helped. I hope adding the Keces and either Sablon or AQ will improve it even more. I'm a total newbie in terms of ethernet, switches, and pretty much anything since Windows 3.1, so I am learning as I go. Francisco, are you suggesting having a GigaFoil before the switch and after? Sorry if I misunderstood.

Dave
 
Hi Dave.
I do not suggest anything in particular, Aqvox, GigaFoil, EtheRegen ...... My point was the importance of taking care of that part of digital reproduction. As far as I'm concerned, I'm willing to wait for EtherRegen and I trust it to be a better product than my Aqvox. I do not know if a GigaFoil would still improve the sound ..... I think that this is a field in which much progress is being made in knowledge and better products will appear every time.
And now to complicate it even more; If someone is interested, try to connect an Entreq ground cable with an RJ45 connector to an Entreq box to a free port on the Switch ... maybe you will be surprised.
 
Francisco,
I'll wait for the EtherRegen to be available and take a look. I don't use Entreq but I'm deeep in Tripoint and a big believer in grounding. I already need another ground cable for the W20 and I bet connecting the switch would be beneficial as well.

How is the Gobel Ethernet cable? Did you use anything before or compare? just curious...

Dave
 
Previously (I still have it), I had AQ Diamond. This is a great cable, but the Göbel achieves the same extension in treble but in a silky way a greater extension in bass and in orchestral music, a body and texture superior to the AQ.
 
Gigafoil and ifi supply will arrive next week to feed my dCS Vivaldi upsampler. Unfortunately l'll be in Portland for work :(, and testing will have to wait till next weekend.

Will be using basic Cat6 cables to start and will be looking to upgrade the cable on the Gigafoil output once I get a baseline established on the sound.
 
nonesup said:
Hi Dave.
I do not suggest anything in particular, Aqvox, GigaFoil, EtheRegen ...... My point was the importance of taking care of that part of digital reproduction. As far as I'm concerned, I'm willing to wait for EtherRegen and I trust it to be a better product than my Aqvox. I do not know if a GigaFoil would still improve the sound ..... I think that this is a field in which much progress is being made in knowledge and better products will appear every time.
And now to complicate it even more; If someone is interested, try to connect an Entreq ground cable with an RJ45 connector to an Entreq box to a free port on the Switch ... maybe you will be surprised.
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I use a QKore 6 and run a RJ45 ground to the switch. This was done well after the AQVox SE was in and well before Gigafoil was put in but the Nordost Ethernet cables were before all of this. I wrote about this somewhere on here, and yes it made a considerable difference.

I also put the switch on Stillpoints Ultra SS with a HRS Damping block weighting it down - this was all cumulative with Gigafoil icing the cake with subtle gains but it did, it’s just down to budgets.

Zero regrets as each gain was not subtle up to GigaFoil and each did not break the bank like an Odin Power Cable - but as I said, I’m an Audio Junkie


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I can attest that what Ultra (Ed) is doing is correct. I went to an audio show last night and Ed's setup whiped the floor on their similar setup. They were demoing the same amps and speakers with Audioquest Dragon cords. Full DCS stack. Ultra does not have near the investment in digital, yet he tuned it all and has achieved the pinnacle of results per the devices he utilizes. He also came to my house and said pull this forward, twist this a little this and that. In the end was all better. I trust his ears abd what he is advocating.
 
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