GigaFoil v4 Inline Ethernet Filter

Craig, Darrel,

I have went through various cables and have realized a difference in my system and would think you will as well, this includes power and dc cables from the liner power supplies.

Im expecting any day now the upgraded 15M Belden cable with German made termination by Metz put together by Ghent to serve as the replacement cable.

This cable will replace the generic Cat 6 and plastic termination between the Gigafoil and the AQVox SE switch.

I’ll announce this on my thread to help others know if a better than generic cable is worth it or not - my gut tells me yes, and you don’t need as high end like from the Gigafoil to your DAC or Streamer.


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I replaced my generic ethernet cable from my router to my computer which is my Roon hub. One problem I couldn't figure out was why I was getting disconnect messages on my IPad when I used Roon. I would get a message. "Check you internet connection".It was off and on. Frustrating to say the least. I now use a Supra Cat8 cable from the router to the computer. I haven't received one disconnect message since the change. That alone is worth the price.
 
On a little bit of a whim, I just purchased a 10 Meter Supra Cat 8 Ethernet cable. That should put that section of ‘signal’ to bed. Now I can obsess about other parts. ;)
 
crwilli said:
On a little bit of a whim, I just purchased a 10 Meter Supra Cat 8 Ethernet cable. That should put that section of ‘signal’ to bed. Now I can obsess about other parts. ;)
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Let me know what you think...the Supra Cat8 has a singular character all its own.

Be sure to burn it in well, also, before making any assessments. It is very detailed.
 
I bought the Gigafoil V4 with the mistaken idea that I could use it downstream of my switch and it would affect the entire network. Apparently, the Gigafoil has to be upstream of the switch which means only one device in my network will be affected.

There is also the problem of using the Gigafoil. You need an extra Ethernet cable. I'd intended to brace it with a pair of Nordost Haimdall 2's going into the switch and then use Ansuz ethernet cables upstream of the switch. So now what do I do, move one of the Haimdall 2's upstream of the switch and into the Gigafoil and then use one of my expensive Ansuz Ethernet cables from there to my Lumin X1?
 
Leatherneck said:
I bought the Gigafoil V4 with the mistaken idea that I could use it downstream of my switch and it would affect the entire network. Apparently, the Gigafoil has to be upstream of the switch which means only one device in my network will be affected.

There is also the problem of using the Gigafoil. You need an extra Ethernet cable. I'd intended to brace it with a pair of Nordost Haimdall 2's going into the switch and then use Ansuz ethernet cables upstream of the switch. So now what do I do, move one of the Haimdall 2's upstream of the switch and into the Gigafoil and then use one of my expensive Ansuz Ethernet cables from there to my Lumin X1?
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Semper Fi L/N

You have some cables, and these will make a difference.

Gigafoil has been reported to work upstream between your Modem/router and switch, and offered a modest difference, but Gigafoil IMO is best for the main 2 channel system. .

The real benefit is as you describe going from the switch to Gigafoil to the Lumin, and yes it’s only one benefit. If you want more, then add an audio switch and your whole house will benefit on what’s hooked up to it.


I’d say try putting the Heimdells from the modem to the router and router to the switch, and use the Ansuz from Gigafoil to the Lumin. Place a cheap cable between the switch and Gigafoil. Don’t like it, mix it up again.

I’m running a test when I get my new cable to replace my general purpose RJ45 between the switch and Gigafoil and have a thread called Digital Front End - worth a read








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UltraFast69 said:
Semper Fi L/N

You have some cables, and these will make a difference.

Gigafoil has been reported to work upstream between your Modem/router and switch, and offered a modest difference, but Gigafoil IMO is best for the main 2 channel system. .

The real benefit is as you describe going from the switch to Gigafoil to the Lumin, and yes it’s only one benefit. If you want more, then add an audio switch and your whole house will benefit on what’s hooked up to it.


I’d say try putting the Heimdells from the modem to the router and router to the switch, and use the Ansuz from Gigafoil to the Lumin. Place a cheap cable between the switch and Gigafoil. Don’t like it, mix it up again.

I’m running a test when I get my new cable to replace my general purpose RJ45 between the switch and Gigafoil and have a thread called Digital Front End - worth a read








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Thanks for the advice.

I'm going wireless from my router to an Apple Airport Express. From there I'll use one of my Haimdall 2's to the AQVox switch and then another H2 to the Giigafoil. I"ve got a new Ansuz D2 Ethernet cable on the way that will go from there to the Lumin X1. I have an Ansuz A2 to go from the switch to a Naim Nova and an Ansuz X1 to go from the switch to a Lumin L1 (NAS Library).

When everything arrives I'll try different configurations. I have the option of running an Ethernet cable directly from the Apple router to the switch but the Airport Express has worked perfectly so far.
 
Seems like you have it down knowing your options, and for sure try running cable from the router to the switch.

And if possible, keep your Mainz D8 Distributor and Cable!

Keep us posted...
 
UltraFast69 said:
Seems like you have it down knowing your options, and for sure try running cable from the router to the switch.

And if possible, keep your Mainz D8 Distributor and Cable!

Keep us posted...
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I've been downsizing. I had a guilty conscience spending all that money.

I replaced an Ansuz Mainz8 DTC with the D8 and 3 Ansuz DTC PC's with Ansuz D2 PC's. I'm disposing a couple of Ansuz Digitalz DTC's and an Ansuz DTC USB cable. My Aavik Integrated amp has been replaced by a Naim Nova. I'd sold my Aurender N10 but I missed it so I bought a Lumin X1/L1 combo to replace it.

I replaced Raidho XT-2's with the Harbeth's (my wife's favorite speaker and mine too).

The cable I'd use to connect to the router is currently being used to connect a Naim Mu-So to the network switch. Since I bought the Nova I don't need the Mu-So now.
 
Leatherneck said:
I've been downsizing. I had a guilty conscience spending all that money.

I replaced an Ansuz Mainz8 DTC with the D8 and 3 Ansuz DTC PC's with Ansuz D2 PC's. I'm disposing a couple of Ansuz Digitalz DTC's and an Ansuz DTC USB cable. My Aavik Integrated amp has been replaced by a Naim Nova. I'd sold my Aurender N10 but I missed it so I bought a Lumin X1/L1 combo to replace it.

I replaced Raidho XT-2's with the Harbeth's (my wife's favorite speaker and mine too).

The cable I'd use to connect to the router is currently being used to connect a Naim Mu-So to the network switch. Since I bought the Nova I don't need the Mu-So now.
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Congrats on your new Harbeth’s. Wonderful speakers. Here is our new C7 Anniversary Speakers being driven by Viva.

https://youtu.be/MytKtPXsfLQ


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Puma Cat said:
Just checked out the video and left a comment, Mike! Thanks for posting it to YT. Man, I want a pair of Harbeths so bad....urrrgg...
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It's all part of Mike's evil intentions :evil: which end up increasing our listening pleasure! :audiophile: Hope you're able to scratch that itch soon!
 
Leatherneck said:
Thanks for the advice.

I'm going wireless from my router to an Apple Airport Express. From there I'll use one of my Haimdall 2's to the AQVox switch and then another H2 to the Giigafoil. I"ve got a new Ansuz D2 Ethernet cable on the way that will go from there to the Lumin X1. I have an Ansuz A2 to go from the switch to a Naim Nova and an Ansuz X1 to go from the switch to a Lumin L1 (NAS Library).

When everything arrives I'll try different configurations. I have the option of running an Ethernet cable directly from the Apple router to the switch but the Airport Express has worked perfectly so far.
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Forgive me, the X1 has a fiber cable input which has a lot of plusses :yahoo1:. Fiber provides very good isolation with common mode noise totally killed off when partnered with a Fiber Media Converter (FMC) with a linear power supply.

Recommend : AQVOX switch -> Any CATx -> FMC -> Single mode fiber -> Lumin X1. There's no restriction on the length of fiber, it can run to several miles. The Gigafoil can be used between the switch and the CATx cable, or upstream whichever works best.
 
Rms said:
Forgive me, the X1 has a fiber cable input which has a lot of plusses :yahoo1:. Fiber provides very good isolation with common mode noise totally killed off when partnered with a Fiber Media Converter (FMC) with a linear power supply.

Recommend : AQVOX switch -> Any CATx -> FMC -> Single mode fiber -> Lumin X1. There's no restriction on the length of fiber, it can run to several miles. The Gigafoil can be used between the switch and the CATx cable, or upstream whichever works best.
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I'm doing that right now with my Cisco switch. I've also gone directly from the Cisco switch to the X1 w/o an FMC. I don't want to fool with an FMC/power block so I bought the Ansuz D2.

I'm thinking of going fiber from the router to the switch. Probably won't work with my Apple router.

Bud
 
Rms said:
Forgive me, the X1 has a fiber cable input which has a lot of plusses :yahoo1:. Fiber provides very good isolation with common mode noise totally killed off when partnered with a Fiber Media Converter (FMC) with a linear power supply.

Recommend : AQVOX switch -> Any CATx -> FMC -> Single mode fiber -> Lumin X1. There's no restriction on the length of fiber, it can run to several miles. The Gigafoil can be used between the switch and the CATx cable, or upstream whichever works best.
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Hi there -

Here’s where I get lost, as I’m not familiar with a FMC, and perhaps you can help answer.

Does the FMC and Gigafoil do the same thing?

And because Leatherneck has a Fiber connection in his Lumin he gets to eliminate one of the FMC boxes under your example?





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UltraFast69 said:
Hi there -

Here’s where I get lost, as I’m not familiar with a FMC, and perhaps you can help answer.

Does the FMC and Gigafoil do the same thing?

And because Leatherneck has a Fiber connection in his Lumin he gets to eliminate one of the FMC boxes under your example?





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An FMC is an Ethernet media converter that converts RJ45 Ethernet media to/from SC Fiber. Both my X1 and my Cisco switch support SFP ports that accept Gigabit SFP transceivers that produce Fiber output. The SFP transceivers are small units that plug into the SFP ports and accept LC Fiber cable. In my case, I have SFP transceivers plugged into the Cisco and X1 which permits me to connect the two devices with a $27 Fiber cable. The resulting sound is very quiet and produces more depth than normal Ethernet cable. RJ45 is sometimes called copper to differentiate from Fiber.

In cases where a device does not support SFP ports, you can use two FMC media converters connected with Fiber cable and provides R-J45 ports on both ends.

The Gigafoil is a filter for Ethernet networks. It uses Fiber to accomplish this. I have one on order that I plan to use between my switch and my X1. I also have an AQVOX switch on order that's somewhere between Germany and Arizona. There is nothing wrong with my Cisco switch. It was recommended by our friend from Lumin and supports both R45J Ethernet and has two SFP ports as well. IMO that's worth more than $100 because it eliminates the need to buy two FMC modules.

The cost of the hardware to support Fiber is low. FMC modules cost less than $60 on Amazon. SFP transceivers are $10 to $15. Fiber cable is dirt cheap.

There may be some errors in my description of things but I've only been exposed to this technology recently.
 
Thanks for commenting, I was not clear.

I totally understand and agree what you indicated, I am trying to learn if the FMC and Gigafoil both operate in a similar manner by taking a signal and while converting the signal the filtering takes place.

I don’t know if ones better then the other, and from a setup point of view there are trade offs.


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