GigaFoil v4 Inline Ethernet Filter

I’m so happy with the way my network is sounding. It is simply amazing. I added the DJM GigaFoilv4 Ethernet Filter as the last step before my Select II DAC and the results were stunning. The GigaFoilv4 optically filters out 99.99999% of the noise in the network. I also added a Keces P3 Linear Power Supply for the Ethernet Filter and Keces P8 LPS for my Roon Nucleus Plus core server. Each LPS got an Audience AU24SE MP power cord. Lastly, the network got AudioQuest Diamond Ethernet Cables.

There are still other tweaks I can implement such as Linear Power Supplies for my Synology DS-3018XS NAS, Netgear Nighthawk X10 Router and Cable Modem. I may also add an audiophile switch but frankly, the Nighthawk X10 works and sounds so excellent with its 6 Ethernet LAN ports, I’m reluctant to add another switch in the chain when it’s really unnecessary.

Ken

Ken, your setup is on such a high level that little can be done to improve. Congrats.

Recently I have been tinkering with aligning all components to common ground to a surprisingly great positive effect.


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I'm going to throw out a little speculating here. There is nothing scientific behind this. My speculation is, if you put a gigafoil with keces into your ethernet chain and experience a dramatic level of improvement, my speculation is there was a lot of noise and issues on your ethernet system in hole.

If all you do is utilize the Gigafoil with keces power supply in this instance, you have done a lot to clean up the signal, but have done little to address other underlying issues. Adding Keces PS to the router and modem as well as utilizing a audio quality switch will bring further improvements. IMO.

I talk on the phone and chat with Ed a lot. I believe my understanding of our conversations is that he keeps much of his music on his Aurender and passes it via Ethernet to his Brinkman DAC. Even in such a simple signal path, the Brinkmann to the DAC via his switch and gigafoil, he finds the sound improved by having a linear power supply on the router and modem which you would not think is in the signal path. I believe the router is still ultimately assigning the addresses so is involved in the process. I also believe Adrian with the Linear Solution was leading me to understand there is still distortion and noise from the modem and router that are injected into the entire ethernet signal and cleaning up the power supplies on those devices keeps their influence on the entire ethernet chained to a minimum.

In summation if you were to address all of those devices with better power and cabling you would find the Gigafoil to have much less influence on its own.

As a second summation, if you just use the Gigafoil and don't clean up the rest of the signal, you are loose some performance. Not a lot as the changes will be smaller, but you are losing some.
 
I'm going to throw out a little speculating here. There is nothing scientific behind this. My speculation is, if you put a gigafoil with keces into your ethernet chain and experience a dramatic level of improvement, my speculation is there was a lot of noise and issues on your ethernet system in hole.

If all you do is utilize the Gigafoil with keces power supply in this instance, you have done a lot to clean up the signal, but have done little to address other underlying issues. Adding Keces PS to the router and modem as well as utilizing a audio quality switch will bring further improvements. IMO.

I talk on the phone and chat with Ed a lot. I believe my understanding of our conversations is that he keeps much of his music on his Aurender and passes it via Ethernet to his Brinkman DAC. Even in such a simple signal path, the Brinkmann to the DAC via his switch and gigafoil, he finds the sound improved by having a linear power supply on the router and modem which you would not think is in the signal path. I believe the router is still ultimately assigning the addresses so is involved in the process. I also believe Adrian with the Linear Solution was leading me to understand there is still distortion and noise from the modem and router that are injected into the entire ethernet signal and cleaning up the power supplies on those devices keeps their influence on the entire ethernet chained to a minimum.

In summation if you were to address all of those devices with better power and cabling you would find the Gigafoil to have much less influence on its own.

As a second summation, if you just use the Gigafoil and don't clean up the rest of the signal, you are loose some performance. Not a lot as the changes will be smaller, but you are losing some.

Rex, I agree with everything you have said, basing this through audible and visual awareness to what was done, going back to address the modem and router is a huge gain with a Linear Power Supply.

One correction, the Aurender is fed Ethernet cabling from the output of the Gigafoil v4 and into the Gigafoil v4 is Ethernet from the AQVox SE switch - all Nordost Heimdell 2 ethernet cabling, Nordost’s highest quality ethernet cable. Nordost Valhalla 2 AES connects the Aurender and Brinkmann Nyquist MK II. I also use lower series Nordost power cables (Red Dawn) to feed both the Keces P3 and P8.
 
Mike just posted a really interesting video on the other thread you started where you were reviewing the Aqvox SE switch and Gigafoil. It's somewhat validates what we are saying here. The entire ethernet system needs to be looked at as a whole. Viewers should jump over to that thread and take a quick look there too.

To reiterate, I'm not bagging on the gigafoil switch at all. I believe it to be a big benefit. I'm just trying to round out an idea for anybody who actually gets through all these pages to understand there is not one cure-all. There are parts and pieces that on their own do a lot to help. There's also the whole of the ethernet signal. What you select as your starting point is truly up to you.

If I were to start with a gigafoil, I would probably get a power supply with two rails and either power my NAS or switch at the same time. It's more cost-effective to get the keces P8 that can energize 2 pieces of equipment.
 
Kuoppos, not trying to change the subject, but is your grounding through an Entreq type solution?

Rex, the solution I implemented is a DYI hack. In an experiment I challenged the pricing of a commercially available solution. The point was to align all components to common signal ground via some vacant signal input. What I was surprised about, was that it actually works, and the level of impact.

It basically imitates the Nordost QKore.
 
Welcome back my friends
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Ken
 
If anyone needs a Keces P3, pls contact me by pm. Perfect condition. I'll be getting the larger P8 through Mike.
 
The Keces P8 is a terrific linear power supply. Got a substantial improvement in sound quality when I added it for my Roon Nucleus Plus. My favorite part is the display shows both the voltage being supplied and the current being drawn. The build quality is off the charts great.

Ken
 
FYI..the dual voltage P8's only come with 1 dc cable..kind of stupid

As far as build quality, none of the 3 P8's I have sit flat.....
 
My Keces will actually be in a basement powering a modem and router. Looks and sitting flat will really have little to no impact in my setup. I'm going to get the Ghent cables as Ed seemed to find the quality very good for the price. I have found 12 volt cables in the past can have a large influence on the sound. I toss away pretty much all cables that come with equipment I purchase.
 
FYI..the dual voltage P8's only come with 1 dc cable..kind of stupid

As far as build quality, none of the 3 P8's I have sit flat.....

Seems odd. They sent 2 cables on my P8, and no issues with sitting flat. P.S. Recommend changing out cables.


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My Keces will actually be in a basement powering a modem and router. Looks and sitting flat will really have little to no impact in my setup. I'm going to get the Ghent cables as Ed seemed to find the quality very good for the price. I have found 12 volt cables in the past can have a large influence on the sound. I toss away pretty much all cables that come with equipment I purchase.

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Ken, your setup is on such a high level that little can be done to improve. Congrats.

Recently I have been tinkering with aligning all components to common ground to a surprisingly great positive effect.


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Try aligning phase of all components as that will give a near free and significant improvement!
 
Try aligning phase of all components as that will give a near free and significant improvement!

If you mean aligning all components for the same AC polarity, I wrote about that in Get Better Sound 11 years ago. It seems there's almost always one or two components that will be reversed, to the system's - and musical engagement's - detriment.
 
Perfectly correct Jim. that is what I mean. i think there was a US gentleman surname Green who pioneered this in the 1980s.
 
Jim,

Coincidentally, I was just reading your book and the section about AC Polarity last night! Would you say the instructions still stand as current? Or, are there other considerations I should take into account.

I know you get it all the time, but your book is THE primer for system set up. Thanks a ton for writing it, and I'm always on the look out for any updates you present.

Cheers
 
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