Do you prefer SS or tube? Why?

Anatta said:
How do you know he clips the amps if you don't know his max SPL or are you talking out of your ass?

I listen @ 9ft from the speakers which are 86dB sensitive with peaks of 90-93dB @ the listening position. Max power I can use is 23W@8Ohm, 46@4Ohm etc. How do I know this? Because I know the gain of the amp and the max output voltage from the source that drives the amplifier; these two combined give no more than 23W @8Ohm.

But please do tell me how I need 200W.
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May i suggest you work on your reading comprehension never said anything about SPL , i think amp RMs power was referenced ..


maybe if you weren't such an “ASS “ expert and actually knew something about audio would help ..


:)
 
Oh, yes, because the max SPL at which he listens is irellevant to the required Watts, right?

Like you know about amplifier distortion :)
 
I do understand amp distortion and power required for audio reproduction, things you cant acquire in your text and comic books ..

Very unlikely Randy is using more than 2 watt RMS at his listening level and his max SPL is determined by crest ratio of music being played , ohhh BTW you do realize he is using a stereo pr of speakers ..

Chk that out ...!


You should try measuring sometimes :)

Regards
 
a.wayne said:
His speakers are 87db @1watt/M he will easily clip his amps on peaks
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And you know this how exactly?

My speakers are 86dB@1W/M and I listen at about the same distance; enlighten me on how I clip the amplifier.
 
Anatta said:
And you know this how exactly?

My speakers are 86dB@1W/M and I listen at about the same distance; enlighten me on how I clip the amplifier.
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Attach a scope , clean ear drums , play real recordings ...! :)

You can also ask Bob Cordell and or John Curl , they may know a little more than you think ..



Regards
 
One thing I would love to know is what gear you guys are actually using in your systems. I like to review peoples equipment in their signatures :). Maybe I am weird (be nice Mike and Joe and the rest of you all :D), but I find it interesting.
 
a.wayne said:
Attach a scope , clean ear drums , play real recordings ...! :)
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Aaand... you're an idiot.

Amplifier has a gain of 24dB and the max output voltage from the source is 0.87V. Enlighten me on how I clip the amplifier (that is if you can). :)
 
Anatta said:
Aaand... you're an idiot.

Amplifier has a gain of 24dB and the max output voltage from the source is 0.87V. Enlighten me on how I clip the amplifier (that is if you can). :)
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Haa Ha , you cant even get embarrassed over how little you understand , good god you are really lost,



Home schooled ..?
 
Randy Myers said:
I have said all I am going to in regards in this back and forth.

One thing I would love to know is what gear you guys are actually using in your systems. I like to review peoples equipment in their signatures :). Maybe I am weird (be nice Mike and Joe and the rest of you all , but I find it interesting.
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My equipment ...!

Ok if you insist I'm on Porn Hub ....... :D
 
a.wayne said:
Scroll down to amp power required ..!
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And how is the described event relevant to my situation or Randy's? It gives no info on how loud were the peaks on the listening position, just that the amps were outputing 250W on some peaks. Yeah, so?
 
I gues everybody that uses less than 200W listens with burned tweeters and are not even aware of it.
 
Oh, I did find an e-mail from Vlad on my (his) Audio Mirror amplifiers. Yes they are rated at 45 watts, but actually can produce over 60 watts. One point he made was that the amplifiers produce well over 100 watts for peak demands; therefore the situations that have been brought up are definitely taken into account in the amplifier's design according to the designer, builder, and owner of AM.

Just because they are rated at 45 watts does not mean that they cannot produce considerably more on dynamic peak demands. I believe this is quite substantial for SET amplifiers.

I do also recall many amplifier designers discussing how their amps can produce a ton more power on demand for peaks. Therefore I do not believe the wpc rating is really an end all when it comes to power capabilities in amplifiers.
 
Randy Myers said:
Oh, I did find an e-mail from Vlad on my (his) Audio Mirror amplifiers. Yes they are rated at 45 watts, but actually can produce over 60 watts. One point he made was that the amplifiers produce well over 100 watts for peak demands; therefore the situations that have been brought up are definitely taken into account in the amplifier's design according to the designer, builder, and owner of AM.

Just because they are rated at 45 watts does not mean that they cannot produce considerably more on dynamic peak demands. I believe this is quite substantial for SET amplifiers.

I do also recall many amplifier designers discussing how their amps can produce a ton more power on demand for peaks. Therefore I do not believe the wpc rating is really an end all when it comes to power capabilities in amplifiers.
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And companies like Luxman and NAIM woefully under rate the power of their amps.


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Mike said:
And companies like Luxman and NAIM woefully under rate the power of their amps.
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Exactly... I would also say T+A would be in the same vain as those. Anyone would be hard pressed to find a company that utilizes better parts inside :).
 
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