D’Agostino M400 monos are absolutely wonderful ...

Ritmo said:
Jim - After a few days, how are you liking the M400s?
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Mike
With the basketball I have only been able to listen for a few hours each day. Here are my initial thoughts. Yes, they are much better amps with one caveat. The plusses compared to my original Momentums: better formed bass notes, the highs are more accurate and everything seems more defined across the audio spectrum. The only issue might be that the M-400's are not nearly as forgiving on poor recordings. If a track is a bit hot or ill defined in the highs it seems to stand out now.
 
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Mike
With the basketball I have only been able to listen for a few hours each day. Here are my initial thoughts. Yes, they are much better amps with one caveat. The plusses compared to my original Momentums: better formed bass notes, the highs are more accurate and everything seems more defined across the audio spectrum. The only issue might be that the M-400's are not nearly as forgiving on poor recordings. If a track is a bit hot or ill defined in the highs it seems to stand out now.
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Do you leave your amps on or shut them off after listening? I have heard a change after leaving mine on especially all day. The Progression don't run as hot as the Momentum due to the larger space.
 
Sharp 2160 said:
Do you leave your amps on or shut them off after listening? I have heard a change after leaving mine on especially all day. The Progression don't run as hot as the Momentum due to the larger space.
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Just as I did with my original Momentums I plan on leaving them on all the time except when I am on vacation or during a severe storm. I do turn off my pre-amp and DAC every night.
 
still-one said:
Just as I did with my original Momentums I plan on leaving them on all the time except when I am on vacation or during a severe storm. I do turn off my pre-amp and DAC every night.
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Interesting Jim , i would have thought the Pre and DAC would benefit more being on all the time than the amp ...??
 
a.wayne said:
Interesting Jim , i would have thought the Pre and DAC would benefit more being on all the time than the amp ...??
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I don't really notice the difference whether I leave them on or turn them off. I figure I night extend there life span a bit. I do leave the clock on since the power is not accessible from a remote as are the pre and DAC.
 
Have been trying to follow this thread and another on whether to turn amps off. Maybe it depends on the amp but I would have thought there is a right answer for each particular amp and the best placed person to answer is the particular amp manufacturer. I have a Gryphon Diablo and Gryphon says leave on standby all the time but the amp will sing best after 40 minutes or so of listening. So end of, at least for the Diablo.
 
AJR said:
Have been trying to follow this thread and another on whether to turn amps off. Maybe it depends on the amp but I would have thought there is a right answer for each particular amp and the best placed person to answer is the particular amp manufacturer. I have a Gryphon Diablo and Gryphon says leave on standby all the time but the amp will sing best after 40 minutes or so of listening. So end of, at least for the Diablo.
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Dan suggest we keep our amps on all the time too. As I indicated I do leave them on most of the time. Just remember they don't pay our electric bills either.
 
joeinid said:
Thank you very much for your reply. Your response is exactly what I was thinking about what the combo would be like. I am still recovering from the amp purchase but I’m hoping for a summer purchase. The Ref 10 is high on my list.

I’m so happy for you. What a great system you have assembled.
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Momentum s250
Hi joe,
A dealer is proposing me the s250 for a good price 18,5usd, if i pull the trigger i will drive it with a low end pre/dac like the mytec dac+( no remaining funds for a good pre and dac, at least for the few months...)
Do you think it s a good idea?
My system consists of wilson audio sabrina + devialet 200.
Thks


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Elberoth said:
I think you would get better sound by getting the cheaper S200 and a better DAC.
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Hi,
Logically yes.
But my plan is to get to the higher fields sooner than later and this is the last demo unit.
They have the momentum pre and i can get for a good price as well.
If i go for the combo pre and power( not sure i can do it though) this will be amazing!



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The Momentum Integrated is also amazing and considering it doesn't need an expensive IC and an extra powercord, it may be a much more cost effective solution.

I was driving my M3s with the Momentum Integrated and haven't felt I was lacking anything compared to Momentum Stereo poweamp (or ANY other paweramp for that matter). You can get the Momentum integrated for ~24k used.

If you buy the Momentum Stereo cheap enough used, you will not loose anything selling it down the road, when you get your funds for the S250. And for the time beeing, which may be 6 months or a year (I don't know what is your plan) you would be able to enjoy a much better sound.
 
sksouri1456 said:
Momentum s250
Hi joe,
A dealer is proposing me the s250 for a good price 18,5usd, if i pull the trigger i will drive it with a low end pre/dac like the mytec dac+( no remaining funds for a good pre and dac, at least for the few months...)
Do you think it s a good idea?
My system consists of wilson audio sabrina + devialet 200.
Thks


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The S250 is quite superior to the S200; I’ve had both. Making this purchase as a strategic system building step would be smart. Do know that in order to get the full benefit of your investment, you’ll need to upgrade your DAC and Pre. Being strategic and having the patience will ultimately lead you to a wonderful system.
 
Hi,

I absolutely think it’s a wonderful idea. D’Agostino amps, either stereo or mono are superb. Do anything you can to at least get the stereo amp. I could easily live with the stereo amp and think it’s wonderful.

I personally would have to eventually add a preamp. Even something as inexpensive as a PS Audio BHK preamp will be a wonderful addition to your amp. You don’t have to go crazy buying “the best” to enjoy this combo. I guarantee it.

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Momentum s250
Hi joe,
A dealer is proposing me the s250 for a good price 18,5usd, if i pull the trigger i will drive it with a low end pre/dac like the mytec dac+( no remaining funds for a good pre and dac, at least for the few months...)
Do you think it s a good idea?
My system consists of wilson audio sabrina + devialet 200.
Thks


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joeinid said:
Hi,

I absolutely think it’s a wonderful idea. D’Agostino amps, either stereo or mono are superb. Do anything you can to at least get the stereo amp. I could easily live with the stereo amp and think it’s wonderful.

I personally would have to eventually add a preamp. Even something as inexpensive as a PS Audio BHK preamp will be a wonderful addition to your amp. You don’t have to go crazy buying “the best” to enjoy this combo. I guarantee it.
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Thks all,
Joeinid, this is exactly the response i was expecting !
What i mean is, my plan was to eventually buy the s250, use an inexpensive pre/dac( i thought about the mytec dac+ since it have the unbalanced output), but even a chord dave can do the job( but for a higher budget)
The ps bhk pre is a good solution also, and i jave a dealer here, then i need to think about a descent dac[emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]
I m definitely leaning toward a finance solution now.
Do you think 18.5usd for the s250 is fair?
The dealer is proposing the pre for 18usd as well!!!!




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While the D’Agostino preamp can be awesome, it doesn’t have to be my first choice. I would rather see you get the amp, a modest preamp and different dac although I think the preamp is your first priority after the amp. The D’Agostino combo is a lot of money and if the amp is in great shape with even a minimal warranty, I think that’s the way to go. You are looking at nearly 50% off for a dealer supported piece. Certainly that seems reasonable for a little piece of mind.

You could possibly hear the combo with your dac and decide that you will be set for a while. I’d check that out or again look for a more reasonably priced preamp.

What speakers do you have? I’m sorry, I’ve forgotten if you’ve mentioned it already.
 
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joeinid said:
While the D’Agostino preamp can be awesome, it doesn’t have to be my first choice. I would rather see you get the amp, a modest preamp and different dac although I think the preamp is your first priority after the amp. The D’Agostino combo is a lot of money and if the amp is in great shape with even a minimal warranty, I think that’s the way to go. You are looking at nearly 50% off for a dealer supported piece. Certainly that seems reasonable for a little piece of mind.

You could possibly hear the combo with your dac and decide that you will be set for a while. I’d check that out or again look for a more reasonably priced preamp.

What speakers do you have? I’m sorry, I’ve forgotten if you’ve mentioned it already.
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Hi joeinid,
I own wilson audio sabrina+devialet200.
I have the mbl c51 integrated on extended loan now, feeded by my devialet as a source.
While mbl is much much more musical than my devialet it is some times boomy and not as dynamic and transparent as my devialet.
If i buy the s250 i can t use my devialet as source / dac due lack of balanced output of the devialet.
Begining of june i should receive the vitus sia25 to test in my system; but this s250 poped out from the dealer and im really considering it view the perfect known partnership between wilson and dagostino.
Let s see!
Thks


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Awesome, you can certainly try the devialet with rca to xlr adapters. I bet that will sound great with the D’Agostino amp. You get a dac, preamp, phono preamp and I believe tone controls as well. I owned the Devialet 400 and successfully used it with several amps and loved what I heard.

Please get a quality set of adapters with your amp and live with that combo for a while. I think it’s more important to have the D’Agostino amp on your Wilson speakers. Don’t waste your time with the Vitus, focus on the D’Agostino. :)
 
joeinid said:
Awesome, you can certainly try the devialet with rca to xlr adapters. I bet that will sound great with the D’Agostino amp. You get a dac, preamp, phono preamp and I believe tone controls as well. I owned the Devialet 400 and successfully used it with several amps and loved what I heard.

Please get a quality set of adapters with your amp and live with that combo for a while. I think it’s more important to have the D’Agostino amp on your Wilson speakers. Don’t waste your time with the Vitus, focus on the D’Agostino. :)
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That,s awesome !
I share the same impression as yours, the devialet as pre/dac/phono is amazing value and sound!
Can you please suggest a rca/xlr adapters .
Your recommendation is highly appreciated !


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sksouri1456 said:
That,s awesome !
I share the same impression as yours, the devialet as pre/dac/phono is amazing value and sound!
Can you please suggest a rca/xlr adapters .
Your recommendation is highly appreciated !


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D'Ag amps come with the rca/xlr adapters inside the Pelican case.
 
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