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Well to those industries that must continue to function like the one I'm in (railroading) we are doing the following.....

all train and engine crews are wearing masks / gloves
control stands, grab irons, door handles, etc. wiped down after every shift
continue to remind everyone to avoid touching your face at least until you've washed your hands properly

so far all are crews have remained healthy.
 
UltraFast69 said:
Since we have not found a vaccine for the flu, I think it is a long shot for Corona as well leading to available awareness on the spot testing, and even then people may or may not address the matter and this all coming from an optimist.


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The Yearly Flu is not the same exact strand of Flu year after year. Each year they guess what they think it should be for the next year, sometimes right, sometimes not. It usually includes several strands as well as harmful delivery agents. If you remember, they included the Swine Flu strand for about 4 years after there were no more reported cases along with several other strands.

If the Yearly Flu was exactly the same every year, they would have a Vaccine, unless there has been an underlying money making scheme between all former administrations of government and Pharma companies since Vaccines were created in every country.
 
Shadowfax said:
The Yearly Flu is not the same exact strand of Flu year after year. Each year they guess what they think it should be for the next year, sometimes right, sometimes not. It usually includes several strands as well as harmful delivery agents. If you remember, they included the Swine Flu strand for about 4 years after there were no more reported cases along with several other strands.

If the Yearly Flu was exactly the same every year, they would have a Vaccine, unless there has been an underlying money making scheme between all former administrations of government and Pharma companies since Vaccines were created in every country.
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The CDC website has the effectiveness of the influenza vaccine broken down by age group and year-to-year.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/past-seasons-estimates.html

Although the numbers used for the analyses are relatively small, the results are dismal. In the over 64 age group, vaccine effectiveness almost never exceeds 15%; even in the 50-64 age group, it is almost never over 20%. If that were how effective a COVID vaccine might be, it would not be very helpful. And as it stands now, there is very little known about what might constitute protective immunity from the corona virus, so no one knows what a potential vaccine should do
 
Shadowfax said:
And what are the Stats for Not using the Vents?

Patients Die, right?

My wife is a 35 year Respiratory Therapist and until there is some real proof about this, it does not make a lot of sense unless there is an issue with the Vent or the amount of Oxygen used.
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Proof may take awhile. Raw data from Italy suggests that high-flow O2 has better results than artificial ventilation in most critically ill patients, but it is retrospective and poorly controlled for other factors. It's not clear if anyone (or any group) is willing to undertake a controlled, prospective trial to try to get proof one way or the other.
 
BlueFox said:
Possibly, but I suspect they are better than nothing.

What I wonder is what will happen when people can go to work, and just start acting human again. The virus isn’t going to disappear. Why won’t it start infecting people again?
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Well if NO cure or vaccine is made by next April, May, this could occur each and every season, something like the "flu season" and we will have a Covid19 season. I sure hope and pray not.
 
Shadowfax said:
And what are the Stats for Not using the Vents?

Patients Die, right?

My wife is a 35 year Respiratory Therapist and until there is some real proof about this, it does not make a lot of sense unless there is an issue with the Vent or the amount of Oxygen used.
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maybe you are right. I am far from a doctor but what I understand is there are a lot of unknowns about this virus at the moment. Nobody understands it to the fullest, irrespective of how experience they are. Doctors/Scientists are desperately trying to glean into it everyday as new data comes in. I am sure there would be more discoveries to be had in the coming months.
 
kiwi_1282001 said:
Furthermore, be warned. There is also abundant opportunity for your significant other to point out an imbalance in domestic labor.
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Kiwi sir,

Truer words have never been spoken. Thanks for the heads up, but I am apparently not of the learning type. :D
 
MikeCh said:
Dave, it is concerning. We've got at least one person in Colorado that has gone back and forth testing positive first then negative and positive again:

https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/colorado-covid-19-patient-retests-negative-then-positive/
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Yes, saw a nurse interviewed today that has had the same results. She's been in quarantine for 36 days. This may be due to the clinical sensitivity (accuracy, not LOD) of the RT-PCR test. The sensitivity can range from as low as 30% and as high as 80%.
 
I am in an essential services industry, we have had many of the recommendations in place but heightened the frequency, however, in production you are well a foot of the next person - there is no changing that.

I am blown away this past weekend we’re my neighbors, and we are all very close, had people over for Easter celebrations inside for dinner or whatever. The oldest neighbor is 94, she moves like 75.

I just don’t get not following the rules when you can.


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UltraFast69 said:
I just don’t get not following the rules when you can.


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There is a whole list of reasons
Stupid
Ignorant
Entitled
plenty more to add

I drove 3 hours to our cabin over the weekend. We stopped 1 time to use a rest room of a gas/convenience store. Nobody was wearing masks but my wife and I. There were even people snickering or laughing at us because we were.

I am not one for mandated masks, but because so many idiots continue to pass it along, I would welcome Martial Law about now. Everyone who decides not to wear a mask in public gets one free dose of Covid and a room to die in without effecting others. That still wouldn't work for some people tho.

It is these people who are stopping us form getting past this in a reasonable time as far as hot spots. Nobody knows if Covid will die off or if it's here for good now.
 
Shadowfax said:
There is a whole list of reasons
Stupid
Ignorant
Entitled
plenty more to add

I drove 3 hours to our cabin over the weekend. We stopped 1 time to use a rest room of a gas/convenience store. Nobody was wearing masks but my wife and I. There were even people snickering or laughing at us because we were.

I am not one for mandated masks, but because so many idiots continue to pass it along, I would welcome Martial Law about now. Everyone who decides not to wear a mask in public gets one free dose of Covid and a room to die in without effecting others. That still wouldn't work for some people tho.

It is these people who are stopping us form getting past this in a reasonable time as far as hot spots. Nobody knows if Covid will die off or if it's here for good now.
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I surely hope you do realize why that is. Irresponsible messages spread by many that Covid-19 is just another flu, Covid-19 is a hoax, media mob is to blame, etc. Hate to break it to you that these actions do have an impact.

For 2 and a half months, many people in high-level government with the support of a major news network downplaying, mocking and spewing conspiracy theories about Covid-19. And now, you wonder why there are people who refuse to wear masks?
 
kzhtoo said:
I surely hope you do realize why that is. Irresponsible messages spread by many that Covid-19 is just another flu, Covid-19 is a hoax, media mob is to blame, etc. Hate to break it to you that these actions do have an impact.

Many people in high-level government with the support of a major news network downplaying, mocking and spewing conspiracy theories about Covid-19 for 2 and a half months. And now, you wonder why there are people who refuse to wear masks?
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I am wearing one, but if you watch the last video I posted, the best defense is a healthy Immune System and NOT going outside and getting Sun is one way to not have one.

And you keep trying to skew things I said earlier. I never said what you imply.

Masks can help an infected person to stop spreading it and the majority of masks being used that do not fit tightly are a joke. I keep seeing pics of people wearing the masks with the flat metal wire you are supposed to shape to your nose, without ever doing that so the integrity is null.

The way most people are wearing masks is about as good as not wearing one.
 
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