Classic 3...maybe or not ?

Frank said:
Thanks Steve ;)

Here some pics !

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Beautiful setup Frank!

I have a question. In a couple of your pictures it appears you have the periphery ring located on the platter-ledge (below the LP) and not on top of the LP edge itself? Is this particular record too small in diameter to rest the ring on the LP?

Reason I ask is that I also use the VPI periphery ring on my Classic 2 and have found a number of older LP's that are too small in diameter for the ring to gain "purchase" on the vinyl's outer edge and for those ones I omit the ring altogether.

With most modern records though the periphery ring works very well to further anchor the LP-edge to the platter (in addition to the center clamp) when placed over top of the record.
 
MikeCh said:
Beautiful setup Frank!

I have a question. In a couple of your pictures it appears you have the periphery ring located on the platter-ledge (below the LP) and not on top of the LP edge itself? Is this particular record too small in diameter to rest the ring on the LP?

Reason I ask is that I also use the VPI periphery ring on my Classic 2 and have found a number of older LP's that are too small in diameter for the ring to gain "purchase" on the vinyl's outer edge and for those ones I omit the ring altogether.

With most modern records though the periphery ring works very well to further anchor the LP-edge to the platter (in addition to the center clamp) when placed over top of the record.
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good eye Mike i didnt notice that. do you use your ring camp often? i bought one for my scout once i upgraded to the classic platter. and it just sat around i used it just on a couple occasions. when i got the classic i used it very little too , so i sold it. my merrill came with one and i never use that either except for the occasional warped record. just curious how much you use yours.
 
Petro85 said:
good eye Mike i didnt notice that. do you use your ring camp often? i bought one for my scout once i upgraded to the classic platter. and it just sat around i used it just on a couple occasions. when i got the classic i used it very little too , so sold it. my merrill came with one and i never use that either except for the occasional warped record. just curious how much you use yours.
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I use mine all the time. I've been told by a couple of TT gurus that the effectiveness is record-dependent and that on some records it is actually a detriment. In the few on/off tests I did when I first got the table, it was always of benefit so I just use it full time.
 
asindc said:
I use mine all the time. I've been told by a couple of TT gurus that the effectiveness is record-dependent and that on some records it is actually a detriment. In the few on/off tests I did when I first got the table, it was always of benefit so I just use it full time.
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cool thanks ,i was just curious as i see alot of people who have tables that came with rings not use them in pics. mine has the dots on it so when i do use it i can use the strobe to check the speed which never needs adjusting. but i hardly ever use it. i may start to use it more. thank you
 
Petro85 said:
good eye Mike i didnt notice that. do you use your ring camp often? i bought one for my scout once i upgraded to the classic platter. and it just sat around i used it just on a couple occasions. when i got the classic i used it very little too , so i sold it. my merrill came with one and i never use that either except for the occasional warped record. just curious how much you use yours.
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I do use mine on most occasions Steve. It really locks the record down to the bare platter when used with the center clamp, especially if there are any small warps to a record. In addition, I think using the ring presents a quieter background too.

As mentioned, I omit it when either the LP is far too small of diameter (some older mono's are this way) and the ring can't be used as it just slips past the record altogether and also when on some records the ring just BARELY BARELY rests on the LP lip (same smaller LP diameter issue but not to the point where the ring slides past) and I'm afraid the ring is going to slip off while spinning and damage my cart/arm.
 
MikeCh said:
I do use mine on most occasions Steve. It really locks the record down to the bare platter when used with the center clamp, especially if there are any small warps to a record. In addition, I think using the ring presents a quieter background too.

As mentioned, I omit it when either the LP is far too small of diameter (some older mono's are this way) and the ring can't be used as it just slips past the record altogether and also when on some records the ring just BARELY BARELY rests on the LP lip (same smaller LP diameter issue but not to the point where the ring slides past) and I'm afraid the ring is going to slip off while spinning and damage my cart/arm.
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very interesting maybe i should try to use mine more. ive also hit the side of the ring when dropping my cart onto the record and didnt like the result.lmao!!!
 
MikeCh said:
Beautiful setup Frank!

I have a question. In a couple of your pictures it appears you have the periphery ring located on the platter-ledge (below the LP) and not on top of the LP edge itself? Is this particular record too small in diameter to rest the ring on the LP?

Reason I ask is that I also use the VPI periphery ring on my Classic 2 and have found a number of older LP's that are too small in diameter for the ring to gain "purchase" on the vinyl's outer edge and for those ones I omit the ring altogether.

With most modern records though the periphery ring works very well to further anchor the LP-edge to the platter (in addition to the center clamp) when placed over top of the record.
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Mike,
my english is not very good, so i'm not sure to understand very well.
the ring is always below the platter, so the disk (even very large) never touch the ring.
Frank
 
Yes but it can also be used underneath the record. It sits lower than the platter surface to allow this, and adds valuable rotating mass to the platter so is beneficial even in this position.

I use mine on top of each and every record, and since getting one have never been concerned when an LP has arrived warped.
 
How stupid i am :blush:, i thought the only function of the ring was to stabilize the platter...

thanks for this precious advice ;)

Frank
 
Frank said:
How stupid i am :blush:, i thought the only function of the ring was to stabilize the platter...

thanks for this precious advice ;)

Frank
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It may in fact help stabilize the platter without it being on top of the record, but if you do place it on top of the record you gain that same stabilization + flattening and securing the record to the platter too.

Please let us know what you think of the sound once the ring is placed on top of the record edge and you've spun a few.
 
Just a little question for those who have the SDS : what are your frequencies for 33t and 45t ?

thanks

Frank
 
im not sure what you mean by frequencies. you should be using just the supplied disc and the strobe to make sure each 33 ad 45 are running at the proper speed by the dots not moving when looking at them with the strobe. now they could have changed this since i owned an sds which was 3 or 4 years ago. but i dont think anything has changed. i sold off my sds because i ran my table through a conditioner and everytime i used the strobe it was dead on and i never had to adjust it. good luck
 
Actually i use the feickert disk Adjust + and the iphone app with the 3150hz tone.
And i found the best result with 59.64hz for 33t.
 
that is beyond my technology.lmao!!!! im an analog guy. :D
im still using this phone. my contract is almost up.lol.
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