Classe' vs D'Agostino

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Jock and I got together for the second time in the last couple of weeks to hear the Dag and the Classe' amps, and to compare them. The first time we did the comparison was at Jock's house driving the fabulous Raidho D3's. The second time was at my house driving my beloved Revel Salon 2's.

I'll only speak for myself,Jock can give his own thoughts. I thought both amps shared a lot of the same things. Both amps had very good bass,and good control over it. Clean,clear treble. A sweetness to the high frequencies that I find in live music. Very good soundstage width. The most surprising thing to me was how alike the amps were in the tonality of the music, in this area the two amps sounded like they were from the same company !!

Ok, I have to admit that the Dag amp was better,in some very important areas. Soundstage depth was much better through the Dag. Vocals came a little more forward in a pleasing way. The music flowed as a whole piece, meaning that the listening experience was more about the song than the gear. There also seemed to be a better sense of control of complex musical passages. In rock music, the many sounds and instruments gong on seemed more independent,with less blurring of sounds. Overall the Dag amp was the best I've heard driving my Salon 2's.

The differences I've described are real, but they aren't huge in my mind. When Jock went home and I started listening to the Classe'-Revel combo again, I was absolutely thrilled with it. The Dag amps are better, but the Classe' mono's are still very,very good and I would recommend them highly to anyone !!

This was Jock's first time to hear Salon 2's in a non-show environment. I think he was a little surprised !
 
Nice write up Mark. Comparing is always fun. Sometimes you have to ask yourself is a little bit of a improvement worth the expense and hassle of the selling and buying new.
I've heard the classe gear awile ago and recently the studios and salons. It's world class gear , I think your safe. Lol!!!
 
I really don't have much to add. Mark's description is exactly how I heard it also. He is much more eloquent explaining what we heard than I.

I have to totally admit, before I heard Mark's Salon's, I have never been very impressed. Mark's Salons are impressive speakers. They fill up the room with great music that can be played as loud as you want to take it. Definitely a well put together system. Congrats. AND a great room. :)
 
Mark you need to join the flow of consumerism and get rid of those Classe's. You admitted it yourself, the Dag's are better. It doesn't matter by how much. Now get your amps on the chopping block and do what any decent American would do and buy, buy, buy. :)

But really, it is a nice treat to realize that your gear is very close to something so highly regarded as the Dag's. Enjoy those M600's and think about all that green you're saving...
 
Having the krell 600e amps and the Salon IIs I really like to compare them to the dags. You're lucky you are able to make this comparison. By the way how much do the Dags weight!
 
Mark you need to join the flow of consumerism and get rid of those Classe's. You admitted it yourself, the Dag's are better. It doesn't matter by how much. Now get your amps on the chopping block and do what any decent American would do and buy, buy, buy. :)

But really, it is a nice treat to realize that your gear is very close to something so highly regarded as the Dag's. Enjoy those M600's and think about all that green you're saving...

Ha!

If Mark thinks the Dagostino amp sounds great on his Salon2, he should not hear Ref 250's or ART monos on them. OMG! I really liked the Dagostino stereo on my Studio2 but until I put the ART amps on my Revels, I had no idea how good those speakers could sound. The Revels are so good, they reveal differences in better upstream gear. My Studio2's are here to stay. I have a feeling Mark feels the same way about his Salon2's. These speaker do nothing wrong and almost everything right.
 
Joe, may I add to your Salon II comments. I am using them for my Home Theatre System, as well as two channel sound. They just sound great. But I also love the middle voice II speaker which matches it so much. I just couldn't be happier with these speakers.
 
Joe, may I add to your Salon II comments. I am using them for my Home Theatre System, as well as two channel sound. They just sound great. But I also love the middle voice II speaker which matches it so much. I just couldn't be happier with these speakers.

Barry,

I am so glad you are happy with your Revels. I don't think they get enough respect. Enjoy them in great health.
 
A Dagostino stereo amp is about 95-100 pounds. In the flight case, about 125 lbs.
 
I really don't have much to add. Mark's description is exactly how I heard it also. He is much more eloquent explaining what we heard than I.

I have to totally admit, before I heard Mark's Salon's, I have never been very impressed. Mark's Salons are impressive speakers. They fill up the room with great music that can be played as loud as you want to take it. Definitely a well put together system. Congrats. AND a great room. :)

Thanks Jock, I still think you have a better ear than me !!
 
Ha!

If Mark thinks the Dagostino amp sounds great on his Salon2, he should not hear Ref 250's or ART monos on them. OMG! I really liked the Dagostino stereo on my Studio2 but until I put the ART amps on my Revels, I had no idea how good those speakers could sound. The Revels are so good, they reveal differences in better upstream gear. My Studio2's are here to stay. I have a feeling Mark feels the same way about his Salon2's. These speaker do nothing wrong and almost everything right.

:exciting:

Joe, I'm pretty sure I DON'T want to hear the Gat/Art combo !! I might have to sell my boat :panic::panic:
 
Nice write up Mark. Comparing is always fun. Sometimes you have to ask yourself is a little bit of a improvement worth the expense and hassle of the selling and buying new.
I've heard the classe gear awile ago and recently the studios and salons. It's world class gear , I think your safe. Lol!!!

Thanks Steve, my wife told me I was broke :wacko: so I' guess I am safe !!
 
I wonder how those ARTs compare to the ARC Ref 250 which I can source locally :rolleyes:

I have not heard the current ARC Ref gear but from people I trust, the ARC is closer to SS sound with a bit of bloom. The ART amps are outstanding and I'd be willing to bet, sound better.
 
I wonder how those ARTs compare to the ARC Ref 250 which I can source locally :rolleyes:

As much as I love the ARC REF 250's and they are wonderful for many types of speakers, I'm just not sure they would be a fit for S5's. Vitus was a great match for the S5's. I'm sure there are lots of other good combos. Maybe Pass XA?
 
Great write up, Mark! Glad to hear you and Jock had fun with your gear fest.
 
As much as I love the ARC REF 250's and they are wonderful for many types of speakers, I'm just not sure they would be a fit for S5's. Vitus was a great match for the S5's. I'm sure there are lots of other good combos. Maybe Pass XA?

That is exactly my concern. Maybe it is time for a new pair of speakers ? :)
 
That is exactly my concern. Maybe it is time for a new pair of speakers ? :)

You're as bad as Joe and I. It's all about synergy. My favs so far are:

Alexia/D'Agostino
Raidho D3/Soulution 501's
Magico S5/Vitus SS-101

I still need to hear Raidho D3 and D'Agostino together.

Mike
 
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