Brinkmann Nyquist DAC - technical jewel with marvelous sound

I am thinking MELCO or ZENITH Innuos server to avoid the music data to pass through the pollution of the Switch and the rest of the network.

Indeed, ZENITH and MELCO server have 2 ethernet ports, one going to the switch/routeur/internet, and the other going directly to the Streaming DAC. Thus the Audio data do not have to go through all the network, and also the MELCO or ZENITH server will act as an Ethernet filter to clean the Ethernet flow from internet to the DAC.

I find this brillant !
 
Jerry, on the router I would say bandwidth is the most important. Just make sure it supports a high bitrate and you should be fine.

From my experience the storage or NAS is more important, as it potentially introduces all kinds of noise into the audio chain. I just went from an Aurender to a dedicated NAS with a Roon Core a couple months back and am very happy with the results. But a mom&pop NAS won’t do, if you want to run a Roon Core on it. You need to make sure it has a powerful enough processor and all the RAM you can get. And you need a dedicated SSD to install the Roon Core on and cache your music library. I do have a separate SSD for Roon and for the cache. Roon puts any album you play on on the SSD cache for playback, so you do not have to play your music from a rotating disc which would introduce rumble and vibration (an Aurender does the same). Advantage of a NAS is you do not have to pay ridiculous amounts for simple storage, as with an Aurender, Melco or Baetis Audio etc. I do have 24 TB (18 with RAID on the main drive), you can’t even get anything close to that with a music server. A Nucleus is basically a dedicated NAS for Roon, there just are less options for customizing.

Also, it makes sense to invest in high quality Ethernet cables between router/ NAS and router/ DAC, as you will immediately hear the difference. I use AQ Vodka and find them quite good.

Andrew, I also do have a linear PSU powering my NAS and am using a Shunyata cable + power filter to feed it. For that I had to have a 4-PIN connector cable custom made to connect the LPSU to the NAS. I find replacing the inbox wallwart gives the music a better jump factor and better dynamics.


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the way to go ... if you want the best of the best :-)

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Kuppois and Bmichaels

i thank you both for your thoughtful and well informed recommendations.

I have ordered the Wireworld Starbright Cat 8 ethernet cable which I believe is roughly comparable to the AQ Vodka, so I think I am good on that front.

I wonder though if there might be a way to obtain consensus between the two somewhere different approaches to the Server and NAS. I look forward to others chiming in on your recommendations, and I sincerely appreciate your recommendations.

Cheers

Jerry
 
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Kuppois and Bmichaels

i thank you both for your thoughtful and well informed recommendations.

I have ordered the Wireworld Starbright Cat 8 ethernet cable which I believe is roughly comparable to the AQ Vodka, so I think I am good on that front.

I wonder though if there might be a way to obtain consensus between the two somewhere different approaches to the Server and NAS. I look forward to others chiming in on your recommendations, and I sincerely appreciate your recommendations.

Cheers

Jerry
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I think it really depends on whether you would like to run Roon or not.


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Well, MELCO cannot run ROON Server but... the Zenith ( starting with the «*cheap*» 2000$ version ) can run ROON Server, so... you can use the Zenith as a ROON Server + ROON End-point (and connect it through USB to the DAC) or run ROON Server on the ZÉNITH and use the Nyquist as the ROON End-point.
 
bmichels said:
Well, MELCO cannot run ROON Server but... the Zenith ( starting with the «*cheap*» 2000$ version ) can run ROON Server, so... you can use the Zenith as a ROON Server + ROON End-point (and connect it through USB to the DAC) or run ROON Server on the ZÉNITH and use the Nyquist as the ROON End-point.
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Ok, interesting. How much is a 10 TB version of the Zenith?


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My experience is that the Server is not in any way irrelevant. The change of a NAS Synology with Minimserver to a Melco improved the sound clearly. The existence of a direct Ethernet port between the server and DAC eliminates some of the digital noise, but again in my experience, not everything. The switch is still the DHCP server and is in continuous communication with the DAC, decrease the noise in the switch with an improved one, an LPS source and connect it to the ground and the sound will improve.
 
Agree, the server is very relevant. Also NAS does not equal to NAS, there are huge differences.

I replaced my Aurender with a pimped-up NAS.


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Kuoppis said:
Agree, the server is very relevant. Also NAS does not equal to NAS, there are huge differences.

I replaced my Aurender with a pimped-up NAS.


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Hi

Please keep the discussion going re: Innous vs other options and what constitutes a Pimped up NAS?

My intent is clearly to go with Roon.

Thanks

Jerry
 
Hi Jerry, I think Nonesup makes a good point about importance of the server. One key reason I went the NAS route is ability to stream via Ethernet, as it offers some advantages.

The NAS I am using is described in detail earlier in this thread, if you browse back a little. You might also want to check with Wisnon, as he has also some interesting views about how to set up a good music server.


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just received my nyquist today...with mkii ...very excited ...any idea how much hours it needs for break in ?
 
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Hi Jerry, I think Nonesup makes a good point about importance of the server. One key reason I went the NAS route is ability to stream via Ethernet, as it offers some advantages.

The NAS I am using is described in detail earlier in this thread, if you browse back a little. You might also want to check with Wisnon, as he has also some interesting views about how to set up a good music server.


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Nonesup also mentions the switch which made a difference in my system


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mdzaki said:
just received my nyquist today...with mkii ...very excited ...any idea how much hours it needs for break in ?
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Hi Zaki,

This is what Matthias commented on the topic:

Matthias said:
Hi,

our products usually run for a week in the factory before being shipped. As a rule of thumb, in a new environment burn in takes about 72 hours. Please leave the Nyquist on for 3 days. Playing music helps, especially when you switch between DSD and PCM. I usually just put roon or tidal to radio mode.

Best
Matthias
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Yet another one, this time from Poland:

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UltraFast69 said:
Good to hear the Brinkmann is still taking ground. I still enjoy mine very much, with zero regret!
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Same here, fits my purposes very well.

I have recently tested quite a few high end pre and power amps in my system and have yet to find a component it does not harmonize with.


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Golden Ear Award 2019 for the Nyquist from German top audio magazine Stereoplay.

And yes, they measure. Extensively. Quite nice.
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