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Bill13

Bill13

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Curious to how the smart people on this forum back up their computers. ? clouds ? external hard drives ? backup servers. I am about to scan a ton of stuff into my computer and I am not comfortable with a plain external hard drive.
 
For critical data, I want 3 copies minimum. Currently I use 2 (raid 5) NAS devices along with copies on 3 USB drives. The NAS devices synchronize each day and I run manual backups to the USB drives every other week. I use one of the 3 USB drives each time, cycling through the 3 drives. Off site backup is where I'm deficient. For small amounts of data a cloud copy is great. At the TB level and up my suggestion is an off site Hard drive copy.
I don't currently do this but I keep thinking it would be a good idea to keep at least 1 HD copy at a friend or family members house.

I do use google drive for smaller data collections like family pictures. With Picasa it's very easy to send copies to the Cloud.

Hopefully some of the smart people will comment... I'm not one of 'em. :D
 
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Rayooo said:
For critical data, I want 3 copies minimum. Currently I use 2 (raid 5) NAS devices along with copies on 3 USB drives. The NAS devices synchronize each day and I run manual backups to the USB drives every other week. I use one of the 3 USB drives each time, cycling through the 3 drives. Off site backup is where I'm deficient. For small amounts of data a cloud copy is great. At the TB level and up my suggestion is an off site Hard drive copy.
I don't currently do this but I keep thinking it would be a good idea to keep at least 1 HD copy at a friend or family members house.

I do use google drive for smaller data collections like family pictures. With Picasa it's very easy to send copies to the Cloud.

Hopefully some of the smart people will comment... I'm not one of 'em. :D
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Thats pretty compulsive "I like it" How did you chose your NAS device
 
Time Machine (system image) to 24TB Synology 1812+ NAS (on site)
Carbon Copy Cloner (critical data) to multiple USB 4TB Drives
Crashplan (critical data) to offsite/cloud

My comments about offsite is to chose wisely. Because it takes a near eternity to backup everything to the cloud. I had about 16TB of data, videos, music and pics. My wife is a professional photographer, so between her pics and my music, we have a lot of data. It took months (no joking, I think it was like 6 months) to upload 16TB of data to Crashplan and when we had an incident and needed to get something back, they were TERRIBLE. Had to wait days to get someone to even call us back (meanwhile my wife is in a mass panic....the files weren't on either local backup either - not sure why). Then the recovery process with them was a PITA. So, as I said, choose wisely my friend.
 
I was looking at the 1512. Considering using mainly for data but exploring also for music server. Do they take Solid-state hd?
Can synolgy be as good as any of the well known media servers ie minimac?
 
Bill13 said:
I was looking at the 1512. Considering using mainly for data but exploring also for music server. Do they take Solid-state hd?
Can synolgy be as good as any of the well known media servers ie minimac?
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You may want to call and ask Synology about which model is best for SSD - if that's the route you decide to go. Synology is well respected and reviewed.
 
+1 on Synology. Great interface, too.

On the Synology site, you can select an SSD drive and find out which NAS of theirs supports it.
 
I've got a couple old Synology 1511+ devices. The 5 drive chassis are fine for me. I'd probably lean towards 1512+ today, but no doubt there are other good choices also. In my case Synology is the "Devil I know".

I'm hoping to move into SSD based devices at some point, but, it's still pretty costly for a few TB of SSD storage..and even with SSDs things can go haywire. For large amounts of storage, spinning disks are cost effective for sure.
 
It was my understanding that solid-state had less noise perhaps there's a reason to have media on one server and data storage another
 
Bill13 said:
It was my understanding that solid-state had less noise perhaps there's a reason to have media on one server and data storage another
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It's true, they are quieter, but honesty, inside the NAS (which sits less than 3 feet from my right ear), I don't hear a peep. If I put my ear right beside the NAS, MAYBE I hear something faint. Maybe? I didn't go SSD's because of the price and limited storage. 3TB WD RED drives are specially made for being installed in a NAS. That's what I went with. No issues here.
 
Bill - if I was doing it all over again, I would be buying a NAS capable of streaming DSD files. Something like this: http://www.buffalo-asia.com/solutions/pre-release.pdf

There might be other NAS drives which have apps which are capable of streaming DSD files to something like the Marantz NA11S1.

What this means is that no computer is needed after the initial setup of the audio app on the NAS. You can then use an iPad app like Kinsky to control the music from the NAS to the Marantz. All you need is a Cat6 cable and both connected to your router.
 
Mike,

Thanks for the heads up. We need to talk about this.

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Bill - if I was doing it all over again, I would be buying a NAS capable of streaming DSD files. Something like this: http://www.buffalo-asia.com/solutions/pre-release.pdf

There might be other NAS drives which have apps which are capable of streaming DSD files to something like the Marantz NA11S1.

What this means is that no computer is needed after the initial setup of the audio app on the NAS. You can then use an iPad app like Kinsky to control the music from the NAS to the Marantz. All you need is a Cat6 cable and both connected to your router.
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I use the Time Machine/Time Capsule on my Macs that backs up every hour and two other hard drives that I manually back up all my data every two weeks. I alternate those drives and so one is always in the house and the other one is in the safe deposit box.
 
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Mike said:
Bill - if I was doing it all over again, I would be buying a NAS capable of streaming DSD files. Something like this: http://www.buffalo-asia.com/solutions/pre-release.pdf

There might be other NAS drives which have apps which are capable of streaming DSD files to something like the Marantz NA11S1.

What this means is that no computer is needed after the initial setup of the audio app on the NAS. You can then use an iPad app like Kinsky to control the music from the NAS to the Marantz. All you need is a Cat6 cable and both connected to your router.
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Does it make sense to use a media server for your general documents back up? Synology makes sense for documents but not for dsd. How big will dsd become?
 
Bill13 said:
Does it make sense to use a media server for your general documents back up? Synology makes sense for documents but not for dsd. How big will dsd become?
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That's the 64 million dollar question. Will it be the next "Beta" or the next "HDTV"? Don't know. I thoroughly enjoy mine and manufacturers are certainly focusing on it!
 
Time Machine and Time Capsule here for the household iMac which is everything except my personal lossless digital music library. For that I use a pair of portable external hard discs and Carbon Copy. Counting the iPods that's triplicate so I feel at ease. Well counting the CD's I guess that's quadruplicated for 95% of my library.
 
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