Ayre KX-5 Twenty and VX-5 Twenty combo ......

Congrats on the Ayre gear Joe. What's the list price on the pre and amp? Just curious...

Thx
 
Did you have Devialet before? Feel like giving me a comparison, I'm tossing the idea of maybe moving away from Devialet if they continue their current course with the Expert line.
 
I did have the Devialet D400. I love the Ayre and Nord amps better. More tone as in more meat on the bone, fuller presentation and body. The Devialet is good, these are great.


Dr Tone said:
Did you have Devialet before? Feel like giving me a comparison, I'm tossing the idea of maybe moving away from Devialet if they continue their current course with the Expert line.
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joeinid said:
I did have the Devialet D400. I love the Ayre and Nord amps better. More tone as in more meat on the bone, fuller presentation and body. The Devialet is good, these are great.
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Finally someone who has the Devialet experience and dares to say it.
 
Kuoppis said:
Finally someone who has the Devialet experience and dares to say it.
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The Devialet is a great package and sounds great in its own right. Whether as a second system or in a family/living room, it's great. For me, a committed serial swapper, I was getting fidgety.
 
It's hard to find a better all in one than the Devialet or MicroMega's for the $$. Amp, preamp, DAC, phono, SAM, amazing remote, proprietary tech, etc. Sure, you can get separates - Ayre amp, Ayre preamp, Lumin, Manley phono, expensive IC's, power cords, rack requirements, and it will likely sound better, but you're spending much more $.
 
Mike said:
It's hard to find a better all in one than the Devialet or MicroMega's for the $$. Amp, preamp, DAC, phono, SAM, amazing remote, proprietary tech, etc. Sure, you can get separates - Ayre amp, Ayre preamp, Lumin, Manley phono, expensive IC's, power cords, rack requirements, and it will likely sound better, but you're spending much more $.
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It all comes down to the ears vs the wallet. And how far one thinks throwing money at a few products buys them that money vs performance vs ears vs staying alive at home thing :D.
 
Well, I'm a little disheartened by Devialet lately. 2 years later and they still haven't fixed AIR. If they introduce a hardware upgrade at Munich, I'm going to have to give an AX-5 a listen. I'd lose SAM but the Sabrina's will survive without it. I would miss the remote the most.

From all the reviews the AX-5 should sound much better at low volumes with that wizardry like volume control of Charles. I'm also getting the itch to try a native DSD DAC and some HQPlayer magic.
 
I agree on AIR. When it worked to me, it sounded the best. But it was so spotty and became downright annoying. The USB is excellent though.

Ayre makes nice gear. The twenty series puts them into another price point and there are lots of good options.


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Mike said:
It's hard to find a better all in one than the Devialet or MicroMega's for the $$. Amp, preamp, DAC, phono, SAM, amazing remote, proprietary tech, etc. Sure, you can get separates - Ayre amp, Ayre preamp, Lumin, Manley phono, expensive IC's, power cords, rack requirements, and it will likely sound better, but you're spending much more $.
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Give me till the fall. I see a hole in this market :)
 
Good luck beating MicroMega. That product is killer for the money. And no class D. Pure AB.


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Mike said:
Good luck beating MicroMega. That product is killer for the money. And no class D. Pure AB.


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I've been checking that out. Can it beat the Ayre 5 series with the new QX-5 DAC, and the Lumin U1 as transport with Roon running as GUI? If mine can't, it will never see the light of day :)
 
I came so close to going for the AX-5/20 over the KX/VX combo. I did want the extra power and the flexibility for swapping pieces in and out.

I briefly tried the KX-5/20 on my 28BSST2's before I loaned out the 28's to a friend and I was floored how great that combo sounded. Like they say, the preamp is the heart of the system, and this really brought that point home in a big way. I hope to do more listening to that combo if I can ever get my amps back.

I'd go for the AX-5/20 in a heartbeat based on what I am hearing now. Ayre is great stuff.
 
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It's only $5k. Add an aurender N100H, done.


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Will it beat the Ayre trio with Lumin U1 as transport in that configuration? I have no doubt that would be a great system for the price, but I'm talking an integrated like the Micromega that is shoulder to shoulder with $35000 of separates.
 
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Will it beat the Ayre trio with Lumin U1 as transport in that configuration? I have no doubt that would be a great system for the price, but I'm talking an integrated like the Micromega that is shoulder to shoulder with $35000 of separates.
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It very well may, but comparing $5k to $35k isn't a fair contest. No one has done that direct comparison yet. But based on what we have heard so far on Sopra 2's at CES, Axpona, etc., it's a home run.

Let me just add, the M1 sounded a lot better and more MUSICAL than amps - especially one new amp that I had high hopes for.
 
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