Ayre KX-5 Twenty and VX-5 Twenty combo ......

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I just picked up the Ayre KX-5 Twenty and VX-5 Twenty combo. I have to say that even without being broken in, it sounds great. Smooth, non-aggressive, slightly sweet, powerful bass and dead quiet.

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Nice Joe, congrats on the new purchase! Please keep us updated as they break in.
 
Thank you kzhtoo and Mike. So far the Ayre combo on the Strads is wonderful.
 
Another home run Joe ?

When I grow up I want to be like Joe. [emoji41][emoji1303]


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Classes are now in session Paul. I want to be like YOU!
 
Congrats Joe on the Ayres! Great choice (I am strongly biased though). Lucky you, that you could go directly to the Twenties. [emoji41][emoji106]

Now you will be starting some of the toughest weeks in your recent hi-end history. Yes, they do sound ok out of the box, but they will sound just phantastic after 300 hours. It will make quite a difference.

Happy to have someone to compare notes with on the Ayres.


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Ah, so nice to have a fellow Ayre lover. I knew of the non twenty versions from a friend and realized they were fantastic. There was no way that I could do the R series but I am amazed at how great the 5 series sounds.

One thing that I love, Ayre takes care of their customers through upgrades and updates.
 
The non-twenty versions were good, but the twenties are great. I had recently a friend over who has the R-series, now he feels he has to upgrade his as well, as the difference between the non-twenty R series and 5/20 series is getting quite small :).

I upgraded my VX-5 to twenty mid last year and it was my best ever value-for-money hi-end investment. On the pre-side I went from K-5 xe MP to the KX-5/20. The interesting thing was, that prior to the twenty upgrade the VX-5 was not getting the full potential out of the KX-5/20.

On the upgrade policy I totally agree, a great way to get life time customers. Who else has that nowadays? This is also what I have tried to get Alon Wolf to understand: If people pay 30-50K for speakers, they might do grudgingly one upgrade cycle while still enamored with the brand. But if you expect people to re-do such an investment every four years, while losing minimum 50% on their initial investment, they will eventually walk away and Magico will remain a niche forever. Would he however enable upgrades for the S-series for a third or even half of the new price, he would be able to develop a more sustainable and longer term following. Upgrades can of course be sold through the same people who sell them new, that's how Ayre does it.

This is also quite easy to rationalise mathematically: Just calculate the Cournot-Point between how many new purchases he will lose when offering upgrades vs. how many more will stay with the brand when an upgrade path is provided and how many more will buy new because of the sustainability of investing in Magico products. - Apologies for the rambling, my first Masters was in Economics [emoji4].




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That's some very nice gear Joe, enjoy them in good health! Hope that amp can hold its own against the Nords. ;)
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Thank you. I plan to get the new 994 op amps and revised input boards for my Nords when Colin is all caught up everything. That should be more of a fair fight.
 
Great information and insight.

I agree, I've sustained enough loss in the past to have learned from my experience. I'm a little wiser now. :audiophile:

One of the reviewers mentioned similar findings about the preamp match. When the Twenty series components were matched up, performance increased exponentially as opposed to using another brands high quality preamp on the newer pieces. Looks like this package is a great price to performance leader. So far, love it. Zero sibilants and sweet music. Thanks Ayre.


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The non-twenty versions were good, but the twenties are great. I had recently a friend over who has the R-series, now he feels he has to upgrade his as well, as the difference between the non-twenty R series and 5/20 series is getting quite small :).

I upgraded my VX-5 to twenty mid last year and it was my best ever value-for-money hi-end investment. On the pre-side I went from K-5 xe MP to the KX-5/20. The interesting thing was, that prior to the twenty upgrade the VX-5 was not getting the full potential out of the KX-5/20.

On the upgrade policy I totally agree, a great way to get life time customers. Who else has that nowadays? This is also what I have tried to get Alon Wolf to understand: If people pay 30-50K for speakers, they might do grudgingly one upgrade cycle while still enamored with the brand. But if you expect people to re-do such an investment every four years, while losing minimum 50% on their initial investment, they will eventually walk away and Magico will remain a niche forever. Would he however enable upgrades for the S-series for a third or even half of the new price, he would be able to develop a more sustainable and longer term following. Upgrades can of course be sold through the same people who sell them new, that's how Ayre does it.

This is also quite easy to rationalise mathematically: Just calculate the Cournot-Point between how many new purchases he will lose when offering upgrades vs. how many more will stay with the brand when an upgrade path is provided and how many more will buy new because of the sustainability of investing in Magico products. - Apologies for the rambling, my first Masters was in Economics [emoji4].




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Congrats Joe! Heard Ayre and SF together and its a very synergistic combination.

I've heard the Twenty really steps up the VX-5 to new levels.
 
Thank you Keith. It really is wonderful on the Strads. Plenty of power for me too.
 
Thanks Jock. I know you're a fan but the new Dag gear must be phenomenal.
 
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