Paul
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Awww... I want a pair.....
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Awww... I want a pair.....
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Someone has been going to see Angie.
MDP
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It's amazing how women react to the look of Avantgarde speakers. My wife loves the look, she says they look like a piece of art instead of speakers.
I think MDP's post is spot-on: they look dramatic and are like art/sculpture, rather than black or wooden boxes. That doesn't mean a partner couldn't still hate them (I don't think they'd look good with an 'early American' decor). My wife doesn't mind them, but she's a tolerant individual, and the speakers are in a dedicated room that she rarely ventures into.....
If I put them in the living room, they'd look pretty cool and probably sound good too. But, too much work to rearrange the entire house to accomplish that.
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When I was the North American Avantgarde distributor, I did demos in the Atlanta area. Once in a while, I would get a visitor who would be not so happy about the looks of the DUOs.
I would say, "listen anyway. Then tell me how you think they look".
Nearly a 100% transformation to "organic" "flower", "art", etc... :snicker:
I would say, "listen anyway. Then tell me how you think they look".
Nearly a 100% transformation to "organic" "flower", "art", etc... :snicker:
TBH and IMO, the DUOs are the most challenging looking of the lineup.
The TRIOs and the Zeros would not look out of place in, say, MoMA in NY.
The DUO Mezzos as well as the UNO Fino (UNO XD be an upsized version) will fit into a modern chic interior.
In the DUOs, form follows function so look a bit more utilitarian. But, as the entry to the larger mid horn, its value for money can't be beaten.
The TRIOs and the Zeros would not look out of place in, say, MoMA in NY.
The DUO Mezzos as well as the UNO Fino (UNO XD be an upsized version) will fit into a modern chic interior.
In the DUOs, form follows function so look a bit more utilitarian. But, as the entry to the larger mid horn, its value for money can't be beaten.
I disagree. Trios with bass horns are my favorite speakers and probably what I will end up with long term, once I buy a slightly bigger flat. On the other hand, I do not like duos at all (or any 2-way horn, or with active like bass, because the bass sounds so different from the mids, the scale is much smaller). I have been to the AV factory and heard all the horns and heard the duos multiple times in other set ups.
Btw, I would say the same for other horns of Cessaro, Acapella, etc... so not AG alone. If I don't get a trio or the top model of a particular horn brand I like, I will go panels. I find that with panels or boxes, it is easy to compromise by buying something 2nd or 3rd from top of the line, or even lower, while with horns, for me it just doesn't work. E.g I see a guy who likes Wilson Alexia buying Wilson Sashas, or a guy liking ML Summits buying the Montis or Ethos, or buying an MBL 116f for a 101E, but the gulf between Trios and Duos is huuuge, for me.
I have heard the trios both with the AG amps, and then in a much smaller room, once heard them with a plain Oppo source and Tom Evans amps, no power treatment or any tweak. Even in that simple set up and 25 sq m room, it was enough for me to judge them to be my top choice.
If anyone is considering buying duos, I would sincerely suggest you wait and buy trio - if you are listening to Diana Krall it won't matter much, but with orchestral difference is huge
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Have you heard the new XD series?
The Trios are awesome, but appear to need a big room and $$$.
The Trios are awesome, but appear to need a big room and $$$.
No I haven't heard the new XD. You need around 4m width. Of course the bigger area the more the fun, but not necessarily required, people run them in 25 and 30 sq m rooms. Unlike panels or boxes they don't need to be pulled out so that helps.
Regardless, I will go non horn rather than get a compromised horn. Horns are very tough to get right and the compromises just don't work for me.
Regardless, I will go non horn rather than get a compromised horn. Horns are very tough to get right and the compromises just don't work for me.
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I've heard the new XD series mitigates those bass driver/horn integration challenges.
My friend Jerry Seh (also on this forum) loves his AV duo Mezzo's. He said the horn loaded driver is excellent and I believe with XD technology should be a winner. Will have to see though.
I also don't have a 4m wide room either, but man those Trio's look awesome!
My friend Jerry Seh (also on this forum) loves his AV duo Mezzo's. He said the horn loaded driver is excellent and I believe with XD technology should be a winner. Will have to see though.
I also don't have a 4m wide room either, but man those Trio's look awesome!
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Well, I've heard Trios sound bad, with horrible bass integration, and also heard Duos sound fantastic, fully integrated. It's all in the setup. The new XD stuff should make that part easier, as today it's a fully analog process.
It took us about a day to set up the Duo Mezzos in our room at THE Show in Newport Beach this year!
It took us about a day to set up the Duo Mezzos in our room at THE Show in Newport Beach this year!
@ bonzo, in the absence of cost and space constraints, I would agree that the Trios with basshorns would be the way to go. However, given the cost of housing here, the Duo Mezzos with its short basshorn would be the best compromise for me at some stage in future, being the cheapest all horn speakers in the AVG lineup.
I am curious though as to how you found the Duo Mezzos.
Btw, the XD series should prove to be interesting. AVG claim that the entry level UNO XD will rival the DUO Omega.
I am curious though as to how you found the Duo Mezzos.
Btw, the XD series should prove to be interesting. AVG claim that the entry level UNO XD will rival the DUO Omega.
I don't think it is so much the crossover integration as the style of the woofer. Duos, cessaro Liszt, Capella have a certain type of woofer totally removed from the horns. The bass horns are totally different
The Audiobeat review of the Trio has probably been posted before: Avantgarde Trio/Sub231 Speaker System - The Audio Beat - www.TheAudioBeat.com
This is an interesting excerpt:
My favorite Trio anecdote runs like this: If I were to list the ten best systems I’ve ever heard, Trios would be on the end of two of them; if I were to list the ten worst systems I’ve ever heard, Trios would be on the end of two of them. That sums up the reality. This speaker system is capable of phenomenal results, but you will need to get it right to realize the benefits. Get it wrong and the results can be borderline painful. The good news is that getting it right is all about following the rules -- and those rules are pretty simple.