Aurender N10
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Brian, you mentioned that the N10 could have an 4 TB internal storage. But on their web page they still write 1 TB. What news have you heard.
Bigblue - the Aurender N10 will include a 4TB drive. Original spec was for a 1TB, but Aurender told us they decided to up it to 4TB. [emoji106][emoji106]
The N10 is expected to ship late June with an MSRP of $7999.
bigblue
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Thanks Mike that's great news. Do you know if 4 TB is the full capacity or is it 2 + 2 TB in a Raid set up (resulting in 2 TB of efficient storage)?
I like everything except the price tag
. But if I get 8000 USD worth of improved SQ - I am all ears.
I like everything except the price tag
. But if I get 8000 USD worth of improved SQ - I am all ears.
Thanks Mike that's great news. Do you know if 4 TB is the full capacity or is it 2 + 2 TB in a Raid set up (resulting in 2 TB of efficient storage)?
I like everything except the price tag
We haven't been given those specific details yet surrounding the drives. Given that this will be a class leading Network Attachment Reference Music Player, with a plethora of outputs and options and that great Aurender app (Conductor), I am very excited to get my demo in and try it on a few systems.
CDLehner
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What's the N100H?
The N100H is similar to the N100, except the N100H includes a 2.5 inch 2TB drive for only $200 more. That's definitely the way to go IMO.
Yes N10 via USB would be the only worthwhile comparison, probably not much in it, the extra cost for the N10 is most likely primarily to fund the other outputs. If you have a top-end USB DAC and are using a NAS for your library, I can't see where significant SQ gains are going to be made over the N100... but I'm interested to see if this is really the case.
Bobolaclune
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The N10 is not the N100 with more outputs . The S10 ( N10's predecessor) & W10 took issues of power supply, isolation, jitter management to a very serious implementation. The X100 & N100 are simpler , less-comprehensive solutions to meet a more mainstream audience. It would be hard to justify a price of $8000 vs $2500 simply by increasing the number of outputs.
... which is why I'm interested to see what the actual SQ gain will be for the dollar, if it's worthwhile, I'll upgrade... but commonly "less is more" is banded around with audio componentry and the N100 appears to represent "minimal functionality, done properly".
There is a review on My Hi-End (I used google translate) and they say:
"N100 whether in use or music replay are fully felt a sense of joy to listen to music no burden, although almost as perfect and as good as the overall performance of the flagship W20, but the sound is neutral towards the clear direction softly in dynamic and the transparent cleanliness are showing pretty good level, can be seen in the design and manufacture of high-resolution aurender digital turntable skill giants really skillful, to construct or upgrade the system with high-resolution music files home can definitely be considered a good focus on design aurender."
I have no idea if the above is true but I have a feeling that the law of diminishing returns is going to be at play.
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CDLehner
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Double post?
CDLehner
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Yeah; and I'm typically in the less in more, when it comes to computer audio, camp. Hard drives make noise, make heat...break down, etc; no getting around that, no matter how good the implementation. That being said...there are some findings, about local files...versus those streamed over network; so perhaps there is worthwhile trade-off (though I think that remains to be seen).
Personally...$2500, vs. $8k; the difference in SQ would have to leap out, at me. I mean, that's like going to a $32,000 amp, from a $10,000 unit.
I'm in the same camp and I beleive that Async USB doesn't suffer from some of the problems of AES and SPDIF circuitry because (I think) there is no clock.
I accept that USB has its own issues - e.g. removing the 5v power rail in the USB cable sounds better - I do not claim to posses detailled knowledge of electronics - but the N100 sounds incredible to me and I can see why adding more outputs to it might significantly increase the selling price.
I see the N100 as barebones perfection for people who are prepared to go through some hassle to access their library... the other models add convenience, and some may well sound better... I would be keen to learn by what margin for each increase in dollar.
;-)
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AURENDER - Reference Music System N10 landing page has info now.
Compatible FormatsDSD(DSF, DFF), WAV, FLAC, AIFF, ALAC, M4A, APE and othersBit and Sample RatesSPDIF : Up to 24-bit, 192kHz (PCM); 1-bit, 2.8MHz (DSD64)
USB : Depends on the DAC specifications (PCM);
1-bit, 2.8MHz (DSD64); 1-bit, 5.6MHz (DSD128)
User SoftwareAurender Conductor iPad App, Android App (Lite Version)
Solid-State Drive1 x 240 GBHard Disk Drives4TB (2 x 2TB) SPDIF ClockingFPGA-based All Digital Phase Locked LoopAudio ClockOCXODigital
Audio Outputs1 coaxial, 1 optical, 1 AES/EBU, 1 BNC, 1 USB Audio Class 2.0 Digital I/O1 Gigabit LAN, 2 x USB 2.0CPU
BoardProprietary Aurender BoardMain Memory4GBFinishSilver or Black
Dimensions430mm x 83mm x 353mm
16.93in x 3.27in x 13.9inWeight12kgs
26.4lb
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bpw
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People who attend our demonstrations next weekend (Saturday, June 27 and Sunday, June 28) of the Bricasti M1 DAC and M28 monoblock amplifiers with Bricasti Design president Brian Zolner here should also get to hear the Aurender N10 in the system. The sessions are RSVP and are filling up.
a.wayne
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Thats not true regarding hardrive's, I have heard and seen HD that are amp quite , fast and have very little for heat , these are custom units and not cheap. My issue with them, well mostly , I have not heard one where I'm ready to abandon CD players for and get on the DAC/ software merry go round or give up the physical aspects of collecting music ..
regards
There is never a correlation between storage capacity and sound quality. I'd struggle to fill a 2TB drive let alone 4, but you can always increase storage, plus in an external USB, or stream from your NAS.
bpw
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The Aurender N10 arrived here Friday morning, shown below on the left of the top shelf. From the interior photo you can see the two 2.5" hard drives and SSD caching drive arranged to the left of the three linear power supplies. I'll try to post some comments on the performance compared to the W20 (black, on the shelf below it) soon.
The N10 will be on demonstration in our sessions next Saturday and Sunday with Brian Zolner of Bricasti Design visiting. The M1 (pictured) and the M28 monoblock amplifiers will be playing. There is a bit of room available for people in both sessions, although by later in the week this may not be the case as we will limit attendance to 25 per day to avoid overcrowding. Please call or email for information.
The N10 will be on demonstration in our sessions next Saturday and Sunday with Brian Zolner of Bricasti Design visiting. The M1 (pictured) and the M28 monoblock amplifiers will be playing. There is a bit of room available for people in both sessions, although by later in the week this may not be the case as we will limit attendance to 25 per day to avoid overcrowding. Please call or email for information.
