Approaching 400 hours burn in....

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Michaels HiFi

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Thanks to Suncoast Audio I'm burning in these babies.

I was pretty nervous to move away from horns, and so far no regrets and it was a significant step forward for me!

Also thank you to Shadowfax for his post on his Fyne Audio's describing his journey so I knew to keep these burning in even after the 100, 200, and 300 hours mark. They definitely need the time for sure to sound their best.

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Congrats on one heck of a speaker. It was a whole new sound for me also but no regrets. Keep us posted of what you have been hearing as they change. Curious if your experiences are similar.
 
Shadowfax said:
Congrats on one heck of a speaker. It was a whole new sound for me also but no regrets. Keep us posted of what you have been hearing as they change. Curious if your experiences are similar.
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Will do.

At 100 hours was still closed in sounding - started to open up at 125 hours.

At 200 hours had a hard sounding midrange.

At 300 opened up much more and midrange becoming more liquid.

400 seems to be settling in nicely.
 
MichaelsMinute said:
Will do.

At 100 hours was still closed in sounding - started to open up at 125 hours.

At 200 hours had a hard sounding midrange.

At 300 opened up much more and midrange becoming more liquid.

400 seems to be settling in nicely.
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......... and we have 'lift off' , let us know when you reach the moon !
 
Shadowfax said:
Why^^^^

How is that helpful or constructive?
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I don't see anything wrong with his comment. Al he is saying is let us know when the speakers are fully broken in which explains the "let us know when you reach the moon!" comment.
 
mep said:
I don't see anything wrong with his comment. Al he is saying is let us know when the speakers are fully broken in which explains the "let us know when you reach the moon!" comment.
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Yes, from a guy who does not believe in break in or cables, but maybe let him respond next time.
 
Shadowfax said:
Yes, from a guy who does not believe in break in
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show me once where I stated that, you can't Brian ! Now, when it comes to claims of 4-500 hr break ins, yes I am a skeptic. Show me the science to back it up ! ? and yes science, because if one is going to believe such things science will in fact inter into the equation.

or cables
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I certainly believe in cables, why I have them throughout my system ! :D

Brian, are you still upset over the Eagles dropping two in a row ? :panic:

As for my comment in post #10, it was merely a reaction to Michaels 'Cape Kennedy Countdown'
 
Mikado463 said:
show me once where I stated that, you can't Brian ! Now, when it comes to claims of 4-500 hr break ins, yes I am a skeptic. Show me the science to back it up ! ? and yes science, because if one is going to believe such things science will in fact inter into the equation.



I certainly believe in cables, why I have them throughout my system ! :D

Brian, are you still upset over the Eagles dropping two in a row ? :panic:

As for my comment in post #10, it was merely a reaction to Michaels 'Cape Kennedy Countdown'
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Well thank you for clearing that up, it looked like one of your normal antagonistic posts so my mistake. And no, I really don't care much about Pro or any other sports as they are just a distraction so people don't think about real issues at hand. Also rigged for all the sports betting they advertise for along with big pharma thru out the games.

As far as the break in time for the Fynes, it was a crazy ride until they settled out and took several hundred hours. YMMV
 
Shadowfax said:
it looked like one of your normal antagonistic posts
As far as the break in time for the Fynes, it was a crazy ride until they settled out and took several hundred hours. YMMV
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Brian, not trying to be 'antagonistic' here so please bear with me........... what exactly took / takes several hundreds of hours to 'settle out' ? I'm serious, I'm 70 years old, been in this hobby a long time, owned many different pairs of speakers over that time period and NEVER have I had to deal with any kind of 'break-in' like that ??
 
Mikado463 said:
Brian, not trying to be 'antagonistic' here so please bear with me........... what exactly took / takes several hundreds of hours to 'settle out' ? I'm serious, I'm 70 years old, been in this hobby a long time, owned many different pairs of speakers over that time period and NEVER have I had to deal with any kind of 'break-in' like that ??
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Not directed at me, but...

Driver suspension needs breaking-in. And more efficient the loudspeaker, the longer it takes as they play louder easier with a lot less power input / less excursion. Less excursion means it'll take a while longer for that suspension to work in, even at moderate volumes. Not even taking in consideration of the electrical properties of the voice coils as they will also change and settle down after a while.

The crossover components, depending on caliber of quality, usually higher quality components also take more time to burn-in. And again, with lower input voltages due to high efficient design will ultimately take longer for the burn-in process to "complete".

All of this adds up and some designs will take longer than others, some with more drastic changes, some with more subtle changes.
 
chops said:
Not directed at me, but...

Driver suspension needs breaking-in. And more efficient the loudspeaker, the longer it takes as they play louder easier with a lot less power input / less excursion. Less excursion means it'll take a while longer for that suspension to work in, even at moderate volumes. Not even taking in consideration of the electrical properties of the voice coils as they will also change and settle down after a while.

The crossover components, depending on caliber of quality, usually higher quality components also take more time to burn-in. And again, with lower input voltages due to high efficient design will ultimately take longer for the burn-in process to "complete".

All of this adds up and some designs will take longer than others, some with more drastic changes, some with more subtle changes.
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I won't argue that, but what I will contest is the length of time to accomplish said changes. 4 & 500 hours ?? Sorry, I don't buy into that long a time frame.
 
Mikado463 said:
I won't argue that, but what I will contest is the length of time to accomplish said changes. 4 & 500 hours ?? Sorry, I don't buy into that long a time frame.
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Well no matter how many people explain it to you in different ways, it won't make you change your mind, and that's fine.

I gather you've never owned brand new Magnepans then. Those take a solid 300+ hours to fully break-in. Ask me how I know.
 
chops said:
Well no matter how many people explain it to you in different ways, it won't make you change your mind, and that's fine.

I gather you've never owned brand new Magnepans then. Those take a solid 300+ hours to fully break-in. Ask me how I know.
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Charles, I've owned Maggies(MGIII's and 3.6's) long before you. I've sat down with Wendell & Galina Diller at Overture Audio in Wilmington, De years back while they were on their N. American tour. We discussed this very topic. So yes, I am aware of certain speaker types and some of their inherent traits.

As for a capacitor in a speakers crossover network taking 500 hrs to 'burn in' , complete nonsense.
 
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