Accuphase E-800

From the FAQ Section of Audio Cubes

Are products carried by AudioCubes Japanese models (100V)? Will I be able to operate them?This question is often asked by customers so please please note the answer: YES.
All items requiring the use of electricity will come with a high-end matching Japan-made transformer, free with your order. There has been no report from our customers with sound degradation nor short-term/long-term issues affecting your equipment. Some products may be able to configured to operate in your local voltage. Please see the product page for availability and information.
 
GreginNH said:
Nope. Japanese voltage with virtually no resale value in the US. :exciting:
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With all due respect that's completely inaccurate. The Grey Market models sell USED here in the USA for slightly less than what they cost Brand New in Japan. My friend in Jersey has dumped numerous ones on EBAY when new models comes out. Last one I remember him selling on EBAY was a E-600 and he got 4500 for it. Didn't take long to sell either. Believe that was slightly more than he paid for it in Japan. No step-up transformer needed.
 
GreginNH said:
From the FAQ Section of Audio Cubes

Are products carried by AudioCubes Japanese models (100V)? Will I be able to operate them?This question is often asked by customers so please please note the answer: YES.
All items requiring the use of electricity will come with a high-end matching Japan-made transformer, free with your order. There has been no report from our customers with sound degradation nor short-term/long-term issues affecting your equipment. Some products may be able to configured to operate in your local voltage. Please see the product page for availability and information.
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Interesting. Thanks. How does everyone feel about this? I wonder why Accuphase hasn’t shut them down. Weird.


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Probably because they don't care or its simply not worth their time as its the US and Canadian Distributors issue. I would never buy a 100V unit... I guarantee it wont be factory sealed and who knows its history or whats been tinkered with it.

I really do believe their gear is engineered phenomenally well... they are as dead silent mechanically while turned on as any other piece of gear thats turned off. That is impressive, no transformer hum or buzz at the case or at the speakers. This takes effort and serious quality control. Would I buy any at the US pricing? NO... but I can certainly see why they sell.
 
dznutz said:
Probably because they don't care or its simply not worth their time as its the US and Canadian Distributors issue. I would never buy a 100V unit... I guarantee it wont be factory sealed and who knows its history or whats been tinkered with it.

I really do believe their gear is engineered phenomenally well... they are as dead silent mechanically while turned on as any other piece of gear thats turned off. That is impressive, no transformer hum or buzz at the case or at the speakers. This takes effort and serious quality control. Would I buy any at the US pricing? NO... but I can certainly see why they sell.
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Exactly... An just try to get Accuphase to do ANY work on it... Won't touch it with a ten foot pole!
 
Gene said:
Exactly... An just try to get Accuphase to do ANY work on it... Won't touch it with a ten foot pole!
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Yep that's true. The statement about the boxes not being sealed or tinkered with is ridiculous thou. Everything Audio Cubes sells is just like buying in Japan except your gonna pay a few grand more. Ive known many Accuphase owners...none have ever needed any service done on their gear to my knowledge. If one is going to gamble on a piece of Grey Market gear Accuphase is probably the safest bet.
 
Billion$Baby said:
Yep that's true. The statement about the boxes not being sealed or tinkered with is ridiculous thou. Everything Audio Cubes sells is just like buying in Japan except your gonna pay a few grand more. Ive known many Accuphase owners...none have ever needed any service done on their gear to my knowledge. If one is going to gamble on a piece of Grey Market gear Accuphase is probably the safest bet.
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^ Absolutely agree.

The way I look at it, using E-800 for an example, rolling the dice for $10,400 can result in 2 scenarios.

1. I flip it after few months/years at half the price, which I honestly don’t think it’s that hard. This could cost slightly more expensive than buying/using/selling other high end brands. But it could also be similar.

2. Somehow my unit dies, can’t find someone to fix and I lose all of $10,400. But then again, you’d have to pay $10,600 more out front if you buy it at $21,000 for service and whatnot. Besides, is it guaranteed to recuperate at least half of $21,000 when the time comes and you sell. Probably not because, with units at $5,000 on the used market, it just won’t sell at $10,000. I do acknowledge that there may be a nice discount you could be getting buying at $21,000.

Either way you lose, just like many other high end brands. Everybody is different, but I do get antsy if the cost I’m looking at is at a level where I don’t feel too bad of losing (only somewhat lol). I’m very interested in comparing E-800 vs. Diablo 300 in my system.

Or...forget all this and just continue “penny pinching” for a set of M2s.
 
Billion$Baby said:
Yep that's true. The statement about the boxes not being sealed or tinkered with is ridiculous thou. Everything Audio Cubes sells is just like buying in Japan except your gonna pay a few grand more. Ive known many Accuphase owners...none have ever needed any service done on their gear to my knowledge. If one is going to gamble on a piece of Grey Market gear Accuphase is probably the safest bet.
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Dude, if I didnt know any better I would say you worked for this Audiocubes place. Lets get off this whole “Buy 100v Accupahse” bandwagon youre on.
 
dznutz said:
Dude, if I didnt know any better I would say you worked for this Audiocubes place. Lets get off this whole “Buy 100v Accupahse” bandwagon youre on.
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Been comfortably retired since I was 44....that was 12 years ago. Sorry to disillusion you. Go back to your conspiracy theories somewhere else
 
Billion$Baby said:
Been comfortably retired since I was 44....that was 12 years ago. Sorry to disillusion you. Go back to your conspiracy theories somewhere else
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Im sure we are all super impressed with your perceived and advertised success.
 
dznutz said:
Probably because they don't care or its simply not worth their time as its the US and Canadian Distributors issue. I would never buy a 100V unit... I guarantee it wont be factory sealed and who knows its history or whats been tinkered with it.

I really do believe their gear is engineered phenomenally well... they are as dead silent mechanically while turned on as any other piece of gear thats turned off. That is impressive, no transformer hum or buzz at the case or at the speakers. This takes effort and serious quality control. Would I buy any at the US pricing? NO... but I can certainly see why they sell.
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Is this guarantee based on any actual first hand knowledge or???

I have bought a SUT and cartridge from audiocubes in the past - both were factory packed.
 
I didn't think you had to have actual knowledge to spout off on this or any forum topic or at least it doesn't appear that way.
 
Stirring up trouble and just being plain ignorant seem to be his M.O. Don't know how Audio Cubes would stay in business for 20 years (In New York City no less) by selling Open Box...aka tinkered with... items.

Where in any of my comments did I say I was successful at anything? I left the work force to become the Full Time Caregiver 24/7 365 Days a year for my Dad (For several years) who suffered from Dementia, Parkinsons and Type 2 Diabetes. I threw away my 20+ Year career in I/T so my Dad wouldn't have to be put in a nursing home. If I was successful at anything I hope I was successful for the most part at being a good son.
 
It's a shame that we cannot have respectful commentary and debate without personal attacks. I know are an OCD fueled group of individuals with strong beliefs regarding aspects of our hobby but that does not take away from the fact we should be civil.
 
XV-1 said:
Is this guarantee based on any actual first hand knowledge or???

I have bought a SUT and cartridge from audiocubes in the past - both were factory packed.
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No, clearly "guarantee" was improperly used here. Just wanted my strong opinion on the matter to come through.

As everyone knows these electronics are serialized. Every successful Manufacturer I know of has territory restrictions that they enforce. I don't imagine that Audiocubes, who is not an Authorized Accuphase Dealer in North America can continue to source, import and sell equipment not destined for this Market, as a full time business no less. I would imagine the serial numbers are either removed, modified or replaced to avoid the source in Japan, or elsewhere, being exposed. Even if Accuphase doesnt care Im sure if Axiss or Audio Alliance contacted them with this complaint and serial numbers they would act.
 
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