Accuphase E-800

If I'm not mistaken, Luxman dropped prices on their top line gear about 25% when they went from an independent US distributor to company-owned US distribution several years ago. That said, I think I'm also hearing that Accuphase's US distributor may charge a higher markup than Accuphase distributors in other geos (?).
 
GSOphile said:
If I'm not mistaken, Luxman dropped prices on their top line gear about 25% when they went from an independent US distributor to company-owned US distribution several years ago. That said, I think I'm also hearing that Accuphase's US distributor may charge a higher markup than Accuphase distributors in other goes (?).
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I honestly don’t know the details but if what mentioned is true, this US Accuphase distributor is solely responsible for preventing many interested parties to enjoy the Accuphase gears in the US.

I’m not sure what his or her calculation shows, in terms of comparison between less quantity with super high margin vs. more quantity with lower margin. But decision to go that route is an insult from consumer point of view.

Maybe, some of you will say to me that I have no idea what I’m talking about, which is true. But I’m waiting to be enlightened.
 
GreginNH said:
$21,000 is quite a bit of money for an integrated amp IMO. A certain dealer (who shall remain nameless) is already telling us to expect a price increase and most of this year's allocation of E-800s have been spoken for.

I guess if you are loyal to brand, price is not relevant. I've owned a couple of Accuphase intreated amps - nice gear, well built. I prefer Luxman and think it offers better value.
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This is the same Dealer that banned me for raising issue with the fact the Axiss ships all Accuphase gear by Ground Service, that is a slap in the face when paying this kind of money. Its also true that Accuphase NEVER made any power cables... they were all knockoffs, yet he was selling them proudly.
 
GreginNH said:
$21,000 is quite a bit of money for an integrated amp IMO. A certain dealer (who shall remain nameless) is already telling us to expect a price increase and most of this year's allocation of E-800s have been spoken for.

I guess if you are loyal to brand, price is not relevant. I've owned a couple of Accuphase intreated amps - nice gear, well built. I prefer Luxman and think it offers better value.
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Why should that dealer remain "nameless" considering we all know who it is (At least to those that are members here and also that "other" forum, of which there are quite a few) and although there has been mention of a sell-out, never a peep about a price increase. Not sure why you would have a price increase when it just came on the market.
Just to keep a perspective there are many examples of high-end integrated amps selling for far more than 21k. So,really no big deal here.
 
I was told by said dealer yesterday that there WAS going to be a price increase. Just reporting the news!
 
Gene said:
Just to keep a perspective there are many examples of high-end integrated amps selling for far more than 21k. So,really no big deal here.
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I think the point being made is not about the absolute price or the expensiveness of it, but more than 2x price difference between geo’s. Other high end integrated amps that are priced $21k in North America are still probably approximately $21k in Europe or Asia. This one is not.
 

I'd much rather be discussing the excellent engineering, build and sound quality of the Accuphase, but that's probably not going to happen.
Way too many bellyaching, penny pinching audiophile's getting in the way.
 
Gene said:

I'd much rather be discussing the excellent engineering, build and sound quality of the Accuphase, but that's probably not going to happen.
Way too many bellyaching, penny pinching audiophile's getting in the way.
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If you look at my posts, I don’t complain about high end price 99.9% of the time. This is really not about penny pinching.

If you can stomach >100% mark up (more like >150% really if you include the general 50% dealer margin of high end), all the more power to you. I wouldn’t be able to.

For example, I absolutely love my Gryphon Diablo 300, but I won’t buy it for $32,000 knowing it can be had for $16,000 in Denmark.
 
My Accuphase cost me exactly what my dealer (he's the one who will remain "nameless') here in the US said it would (less a generous discount). I could care less that some fellow in Japan got it for less. Good for them. That's what he pays there.
Now..can we get on to giving and hearing opinions about Accuphase sound quality...which is a very real thing to discuss and stop all the whining about pricing or do we continue to beat a very dead horse,imo. Again...probally not going to happen.

God!.. how i wish there was a Accuphase forum for owners only!
 
Gene said:
My Accuphase cost me exactly what my dealer (he's the one who will remain "nameless') here in the US said it would (less a generous discount). I could care less that some fellow in Japan got it for less. Good for them. That's what he pays there.
Now..can we get on to giving and hearing opinions about Accuphase sound quality...which is a very real thing to discuss and stop all the whining about pricing or do we continue to beat a very dead horse,imo. Again...probally not going to happen.

God!.. how i wish there was a Accuphase forum for owners only!
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No one is preventing you from discussing Accuphase sound quality. You can continue ask/discuss/opine however you want. People who has knowledge of what you say will reply you.

If you don’t like pricing posts, just ignore them. No one is pointing a gun to the head asking your opinion. This is a public forum, not a family or friends whatsapp chat.

BTW I like Accuphase. Never owned any but few times I heard I think they sound great.
 
Gene said:
God!.. how i wish there was a Accuphase forum for owners only!
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lol, sorry.
accuphase was my nr1 brand when i was a boy. really dreamt about that stuff.
i did own the ps 12xx, didnt do anything so eventually i ve sold it.
that said, in switzerland it is a big brand and much more available than solution or ch precision, goldmund, nagra etc.
i know many people who owns accuphase and like it a lot. the piega people for example love it. it is a perfect combination.
 
kzhtoo said:
No one is preventing you from discussing Accuphase sound quality. You can continue ask/discuss/opine however you want. People who has knowledge of what you say will reply you.

If you don’t like pricing posts, just ignore them. No one is pointing a gun to the head asking your opinion. This is a public forum, not a family or friends whatsapp chat.

BTW I like Accuphase. Never owned any but few times I heard I think they sound great.
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I've given my opinion on other forums. Kind of hard to break through all the noise and outrage from the price obsessed fanatics foaming at the mouth.
I start to talk sound quality and lo and behold it quickly degenerates in to a price free-for- all.
No thanks.
 
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