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    MSB Select II

    Mike L, Alex, and anyone else with a Select II, are you guys using MSB DSD optimized or native DSD?


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    Re: MSB Select II

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    Re: MSB Select II

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Mike L, Alex, and anyone else with a Select II, are you guys using MSB DSD optimized or native DSD?


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    yes; easily prefer 'optimized' to standard/native dsd.

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    MSB Select II

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lavigne View Post
    yes; easily prefer 'optimized' to standard/native dsd.
    Thanks. I’m hearing the same thing.


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    Optimized.

    The effect is remarkable.

    And if you use a server of some kind, don't upsample. That includes the SGM. Always pass it straight through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiufy View Post
    Optimized.

    The effect is remarkable.

    And if you use a server of some kind, don't upsample. That includes the SGM. Always pass it straight through.
    Yup. Thanks. That’s the way I’m doing it. I don’t like the sound of upsampled myself.


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    Re: MSB Select II

    Optimized

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    Re: MSB Select II

    Optimized means upsampled ?
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    No. It's just a different way of configuring the Hybrid DAC modules to accept/play DSD.

    This was a software upgrade introduced sometime early this year, along with a new 16/44 filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiufy View Post
    No. It's just a different way of configuring the Hybrid DAC modules to accept/play DSD.

    This was a software upgrade introduced sometime early this year, along with a new 16/44 filter.
    I heard this upgrade before (Friday and Saturday) and after (Sunday) at Axpona this year. The difference on CD and SACD was huge, game changing as a matter of fact.

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    Re: MSB Select II

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmEy-CKZi28


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    Re: MSB Select II

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
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    That would be the first time I have listened to a youtube post & chuckled from sheer joy. Great system, great sounds,... are the horns silent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkmouth View Post
    That would be the first time I have listened to a youtube post & chuckled from sheer joy. Great system, great sounds,... are the horns silent?
    Thanks Kev, yes they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkmouth View Post
    That would be the first time I have listened to a youtube post & chuckled from sheer joy. Great system, great sounds,... are the horns silent?

    +1 On that note I may have to change my tune on Avantgardes---

    They can entertain!

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    Re: MSB Select II

    Well Mike, how is the sound with the AG Duos at home?
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    Re: MSB Select II

    After a solid week of burn in, the Select II has continued to improve. To my amazement, it just keeps improving in all areas. It presents all formats with such ease and smoothness, but not smoothing out. Just natural, just so unprocessed without that edge. Redbook continues to just floor me. With few exceptions, it’s like listening to a pristinely clean copy of an album on the Kronos, but the lack of surface noise allows so much more micro details to come through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    After a solid week of burn in, the Select II has continued to improve. To my amazement, it just keeps improving in all areas. It presents all formats with such ease and smoothness, but not smoothing out. Just natural, just so unprocessed without that edge. Redbook continues to just floor me. With few exceptions, it’s like listening to a pristinely clean copy of an album on the Kronos, but the lack of surface noise allows so much more micro details to come through.
    hence my opinion on digital to you, I do believe it is as good as anything else in the medium wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post





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    Re: MSB Select II

    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    I still regret not having the time to audition this system...sigh.
    Well its pretty cold in Switzerland about now , so get on a flight and head over , we have Plenty for you to hear before hitting Mike on the West Coast ...




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    After a solid week of burn in, the Select II has continued to improve. To my amazement, it just keeps improving in all areas. It presents all formats with such ease and smoothness, but not smoothing out. Just natural, just so unprocessed without that edge. Redbook continues to just floor me. With few exceptions, it’s like listening to a pristinely clean copy of an album on the Kronos, but the lack of surface noise allows so much more micro details to come through.
    originally seeing MikeL comments on the MSB and now yours i have no doubt its real. MikeL is a very serious player and for a very longtime , as you , not ideological at all , only the pursuit for excellence matters and with your additional comments ,


    This is very serious indeed .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Well its pretty cold in Switzerland about now , so get on a flight and head over , we have Plenty for you to hear before hitting Mike on the West Coast ...



    Hahahah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    originally seeing MikeL comments on the MSB and now yours i have no doubt its real. MikeL is a very serious player and for a very longtime , as you , not ideological at all , only the pursuit for excellent matters and with your additional comments ,


    This is very serious indeed .....
    It is. Ironically, i was NOT very impressed with the Select 1, but the TWO is a whole nother level!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    It is. Ironically, i was NOT very impressed with the Select 1, but the TWO is a whole nother level!

    Yes does appear the TWO is a whole oddah level , so is the Price .


    ...


    Anyway Hurry Back i have a 8ft tall ESL with bespoke amps, i would like you to hear ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Yes does appear the TWO is a whole oddah level , so is the Price .


    ...


    Anyway Hurry Back i have a 8ft tall ESL with bespoke amps, i would like you to hear ..
    Price didnt change, software did!
    From what I know about the Goldmund Proteus system, software can make all the difference, once the HW was top notch to start with.
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    Renderer II is now shipping...
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    Re: MSB Select II

    My Transport with external PSU and Roon Renderer are arriving Wednesday along with the Audio Research REF160M’s. Christmas in April. MSB Select IIMSB Select IIMSB Select IIMSB Select IIMSB Select IIMSB Select II
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    My Transport with external PSU and Roon Renderer are arriving Wednesday along with the Audio Research REF160M’s. Christmas in April. MSB Select IIMSB Select IIMSB Select IIMSB Select IIMSB Select IIMSB Select II
    Wouu Mike , that is for sure like Christmas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    My Transport with external PSU and Roon Renderer are arriving Wednesday along with the Audio Research REF160M’s. Christmas in April. MSB Select IIMSB Select IIMSB Select IIMSB Select IIMSB Select IIMSB Select II
    Yes very much looking forward to it. The one issue and I am sure I am wrong about this, is why the renderer will sound better than their USB based module based on the technology utilized by MSB. However, I will be very very pleasantly surprised to find my “hypothesis” wrong when my renderer arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priaptor View Post
    Yes very much looking forward to it. The one issue and I am sure I am wrong about this, is why the renderer will sound better than their USB based module based on the technology utilized by MSB. However, I will be very very pleasantly surprised to find my “hypothesis” wrong when my renderer arrives.
    Excellent news Mike on the transport!
    I am confident that the transport through MSB proprietary i2s will sound superior to all, while I doubt that USB can sound as good as renderer based source, given its noisy nature. With proviso, of course, that a decently isolated switch is used.
    I cannot wait to hear about your findings!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priaptor View Post
    Yes very much looking forward to it. The one issue and I am sure I am wrong about this, is why the renderer will sound better than their USB based module based on the technology utilized by MSB. However, I will be very very pleasantly surprised to find my “hypothesis” wrong when my renderer arrives.
    No need, I compared already when I had the final prototype in the system. The roon renderer was the champ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiorgioNuvolari View Post
    Excellent news Mike on the transport!
    I am confident that the transport through MSB proprietary i2s will sound superior to all, while I doubt that USB can sound as good as renderer based source, given its noisy nature. With proviso, of course, that a decently isolated switch is used.
    I cannot wait to hear about your findings!
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    Re: MSB Select II

    On the few devices I have tried ethernet has always won out versus USB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lavigne View Post
    yes; easily prefer 'optimized' to standard/native dsd.
    Hi Mike,

    I hope all is well with you. I have a question for you. Approximately what percentage of time did you listen to digital, vinyl and tape before purchasing your Select II DAC and after purchasing your Select II DAC?

    I’m still patiently waiting for my Select II DAC. There seems to be a bit of a bottleneck in the anodizing process as they have an outside vendor anodize the chassis. And now we’re into summer vacations when everything slows down. I ordered mine in silver. Those who ordered black are receiving them more quickly as they had some black chassis in stock.

    Thanks,
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    My Select II arrived a few weeks ago

    At the 400 hour mark it was like WTF just happened? Just amazing sound.

    A bit up a down getting to the 400 hour plateau, u have to be patient......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    Hi Mike,

    I hope all is well with you. I have a question for you. Approximately what percentage of time did you listen to digital, vinyl and tape before purchasing your Select II DAC and after purchasing your Select II DAC?
    hi Ken,

    prior to purchasing the Select II, I owned the Aqua Formula, the Lampi GG, and the Trinity dac......three excellent dacs. I'd say my digital was 40%-60% during that 18-20 month period.

    now, I'm more like 70-80% digital with the Select II. but it's not so simple as only the Select II difference with the digital side of things. I've also added more active Taiko Tana isolation devices (one under the dart pre and one under the MSB main dac box, and improved my passive isolation for the MSB power supplies and SGM server. and also, both mono blocks now have Taiko Tana active devices underneath.

    the digital performance is very satisfying.....and the degree of the pull of analog is considerably diminished. once I start actually playing vinyl or tape, it's still a different ball game. but I get there less these days.

    I’m still patiently waiting for my Select II DAC. There seems to be a bit of a bottleneck in the anodizing process as they have an outside vendor anodize the chassis. And now we’re into summer vacations when everything slows down. I ordered mine in silver. Those who ordered black are receiving them more quickly as they had some black chassis in stock.

    Thanks,
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    best wishes on a speedy delivery.

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    Ken - Hang in there, the Select II will arrive soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lavigne View Post
    hi Ken,

    prior to purchasing the Select II, I owned the Aqua Formula, the Lampi GG, and the Trinity dac......three excellent dacs. I'd say my digital was 40%-60% during that 18-20 month period.

    now, I'm more like 70-80% digital with the Select II. but it's not so simple as only the Select II difference with the digital side of things. I've also added more active Taiko Tana isolation devices (one under the dart pre and one under the MSB main dac box, and improved my passive isolation for the MSB power supplies and SGM server. and also, both mono blocks now have Taiko Tana active devices underneath.

    the digital performance is very satisfying.....and the degree of the pull of analog is considerably diminished. once I start actually playing vinyl or tape, it's still a different ball game. but I get there less these days.



    best wishes on a speedy delivery.

    Mike
    Thanks Mike! These numbers are quite telling, even with all the additional isolation tweaks you’ve implemented. I can’t tell you how much I’m looking forward to attaining this level of sound quality. The MSB Select II DAC with Roon Nucleus Plus, Synology NAS, Tidal and MQA looks to be a true game changer for me and my system.

    Best,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Ken - Hang in there, the Select II will arrive soon enough.
    Thanks Mike! Patience has never been my strong point. Yesterday wouldn’t be soon enough...LOL.

    Best,
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    I can also add that Tidal -> Nucleus+ w/SSD -> MSB Renderer Mk2 -> MSB Select II is producing amazing results.
    I spent the whole night awake going through the MQA catalogue on Tidal.
    It is a phenomenal performance even compared to locally ripped redbook CDs.
    best, w

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiorgioNuvolari View Post
    I can also add that Tidal -> Nucleus+ w/SSD -> MSB Renderer Mk2 -> MSB Select II is producing amazing results.
    I spent the whole night awake going through the MQA catalogue on Tidal.
    It is a phenomenal performance even compared to locally ripped redbook CDs.
    best, w
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    Thanks Mike! I have found that the combination of Naim UnitiCore, Nucleus+ and MSB Select II is exceding my very high expectations. Both in playback of locally stored redbook, HiRes and DSD files, as well as in streaming of Tidal Masters MQA material.
    I am still to finalise the ethernet cabling (as I need three cables) and that is where my most critical listening is focused on as of late.
    Here is a simple view of the source rack.
    Happy listening to all, GN
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    Did I do something wrong while posting a picture? I am not very good at that...

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    Giorgio , your rack and equipment looks great
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    Giorgio, given the level you are in and you still have an RJ45 cable missing, I would suggest you try the Göbel RJ45. I replaced one of my two RJ45 Audio Quest Diamond cables, by Göbel and the result was totally satisfactory.
    In fact, after a short time I also changed my two XLR cables between Lumin and AR Ref 5SE and between Ref 5SE and Constellation.
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    Thank you Mike, Francisco, and Flemming!
    My experience with Goebel has been less than ideal - several of my approaches went unanswered. While I really admire and appreciate their approach and commitment, there are elements of their presence that do not appeal to me. Further, in the two rooms at Munich this year, I was not moved by what I understand is their signature sound.
    Therefore, I am leaning towards Chord Music streaming cable, still to be auditioned.
    I have SoTM and JCAT streaming cables in the system now, and they both easily outperformed Audioquest which I took on as the initial reference. The switch I use is a simple 8 port HP industrial piece, which out performed other "audiophile" switches I auditioned.
    My XLR interconnects are all Gryphon VIP, a cable I consider regrettably under appreciated and not considered nearly enough.
    If I may, I recommend Gryphon VIP interconnects very warmly.
    Best, GN

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiorgioNuvolari View Post
    Did I do something wrong while posting a picture? I am not very good at that...
    I thought, maybe you live near the Equator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I thought, maybe you live near the Equator.
    I see - looked good in my browser - thanks for the correction!
    best, GN

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