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Michaels HiFi

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Looks like the old Tannoy US distributor, the new Tannoy US distributor and those who used to work for Tannoy are all going at it over on the forum after the pretty poor review the speakers just received.

Remember Tannoy dropped the old distributor to go with the new one who is a former employee of the previous distributor so it's all very soap-operish.


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Fyne must be so proud of their new distributor.


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Porsche said:
who cares, so many options out there
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SCAudiophile said:
Leave the drama on the other forum where it belongs.
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Agreed. Plus, whomever the distributors of Tannoy are, they're focused on their business objectives, and very like don't care about what are merely the opinions of members of an internet audio forum. And, we know the colloquial saying about "opinions..."

Moreover, "opinions" are not actionable from a product development business perspective. A disciplined understanding and articulation of customer requirements (aka "VOC"), KJ analysis, SSI survey rankings, and Kano Analysis resulting in disciplined and data-driven product requirements development...are. Then, after that, a audio products company has to focus on putting their product design embodiments based on these product requirements into...statistical process control in Manufacturing and QC to ensure consistent Quality. This time and effort is much better spent than worrying about an anecdotal set of "opinions" from an online audio forum with no clear articulation of customer requirements, much less being an actionable VOC data set with any statistical power.

IMHO, there's much more interesting things to focus on, e.g. the first successful landing of a spacecraft on the Moon in over 50 years.
 
Puma Cat said:
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IMHO, there's much more interesting things to focus on, e.g. the first successful landing of a spacecraft on the Moon in over 50 years.
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Then you don't have to read what's going on.

I think it's interesting to watch a former employee from a dealer/distributor leave his company, steal one of its main lines out from under him, then implode all in the matter of a few months when the two of them go to war.

Then that first dealer goes after another brand just to screw his former employee.

Finally, the new distributor goes after another distributor and calls him inept just because the new product by the company got a terrible review.

Finally, all involved appear to promote things about the brand that, shall we say, are questionable at best.

You guys can just ignore it, but for many others it's fascinating to watch. If you want to talk about spacecraft on the moon, I'm sure there are forums for that other than an audio forum. :). I'm sure people could say things such as the spacecraft is more interesting to talk about than getting a new audio rack maybe?

For the rest of us, this topic has been a source of HUGE chatter over the last few months. No one is forcing you to read this or comment on it.
 
MichaelsMinute said:
Then you don't have to read what's going on.

I think it's interesting to watch a former employee from a dealer/distributor leave his company, steal one of its main lines out from under him, then implode all in the matter of a few months when the two of them go to war.

Then that first dealer goes after another brand just to screw his former employee.

Finally, the new distributor goes after another distributor and calls him inept just because the new product by the company got a terrible review.

Finally, all involved appear to promote things about the brand that, shall we say, are questionable at best.

You guys can just ignore it, but for many others it's fascinating to watch. If you want to talk about spacecraft on the moon, I'm sure there are forums for that other than an audio forum. :). I'm sure people could say things such as the spacecraft is more interesting to talk about than getting a new audio rack maybe?

For the rest of us, this topic has been a source of HUGE chatter over the last few months. No one is forcing you to read this or comment on it.
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drama queen
 
Puma Cat said:
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Agreed. Plus, whomever the distributors of Tannoy are, they're focused on their business objectives, and very like don't care about what are merely the opinions of members of an internet audio forum. And, we know the colloquial saying about "opinions..."

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You missed the part where he went onto an international forum to attack another Tannoy distributor about something he knew nothing about.

You missed the part where he and Kevin got into a pissing contest and called each other names.

You missed the part where he said What Hi-fi must have reviewed the speakers wrong as they didn't like them.

Then he got banned from the forum only to be allow back on.

So much for him being "focused" on his business objectives. :) Just good forum watching to enjoy.
 
Funny how people with no interest in reading about specific topics take the time to reply that they don't want to read them.

Landing on the moon is another colossal waste of money with the current state of this world we live on. That money could be used to stop the Fentanyl issue and so much more.

@MichaelsMinute - Thanks for posting this since I have been interested in how this all plays out. I love my Fynes. Funny thing about that review is that Fyne speakers sound exactly that way when new, but the shoutiness does go away with the Fynes.
 
Shadowfax said:
Funny how people with no interest in reading about specific topics take the time to reply that they don't want to read them.

Landing on the moon is another colossal waste of money with the current state of this world we live on. That money could be used to stop the Fentanyl issue and so much more.

@MichaelsMinute - Thanks for posting this since I have been interested in how this all plays out. I love my Fynes. Funny thing about that review is that Fyne speakers sound exactly that way when new, but the shoutiness does go away with the Fynes.
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No prob.

I have no idea how much burn in they received and neither does the US distributor. He admits as much yet he still called the UK distributor inept.

From what people involved in Tannoy have told me and the pictures they have sent me, with the gutting of Tannoy over the last 7 years this review is no surprise that it came out so poorly.

It's sad to see such a storied brand suffering such a fate.
 
MichaelsMinute said:
No prob.

I have no idea how much burn in they received and neither does the US distributor. He admits as much yet he still called the UK distributor inept.

From what people involved in Tannoy have told me and the pictures they have sent me, with the gutting of Tannoy over the last 7 years this review is no surprise that it came out so poorly.

It's sad to see such a storied brand suffering such a fate.
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When I saw the pics of their cabinets being built on the floor of some garage in another country I was pretty surprised. If a Manufacturer of a product refuses to say where that product is built, they should not be trusted. Even IF the Chinese built product sounds the same as a UK built product. If you cannot be up front and honest about your product, it is no surprise that product loses peoples interest and fails.
 
Shadowfax said:
When I saw the pics of their cabinets being built on the floor of some garage in another country I was pretty surprised. If a Manufacturer of a product refuses to say where that product is built, they should not be trusted. Even IF the Chinese built product sounds the same as a UK built product. If you cannot be up front and honest about your product, it is no surprise that product loses peoples interest and fails.
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Seeing the pictures that were shared with me of what Tannoy was actually sending to the US as "finished product" was mind boggling.

The defective rate and completely-unfinished-rate-yet-we-shipped-them-anyway of speakers they claimed to be receiving from Tannoy was unbelievable if true.

I don't know if it's true or not, but they sure did have a lot of photos and specific examples to tell about.

I won't even get into their claims of photo-shopped photos to include people at a factory yet it never supposedly happened (though they also made that claim publicly on forums as well).
 
I agree if something got a "bad" review from What Hi Fi something either went really bad or it's just a really undeniably bad product because WHF loves everything pretty much.
 
Tannoy Prestige speakers have been manufactured for many years (10+?) by Diora in Poland. So although not UK made, they were still UE made. Diora makes superb cabinets for many european manufacturers.

Check this vid (from 21:52s):


That was shot 3 weeks ago. Did anything change?
 
Shadowfax said:
When I saw the pics of their cabinets being built on the floor of some garage in another country I was pretty surprised. If a Manufacturer of a product refuses to say where that product is built, they should not be trusted. Even IF the Chinese built product sounds the same as a UK built product. If you cannot be up front and honest about your product, it is no surprise that product loses peoples interest and fails.
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I was shown pictures showing speakers being received that were supposedly stained and covered in what look to be covered in urine. This was happening (supposedly from what they claim) quite a bit.

As it was explained to me, they had a customer receive a pair of Westminsters (~$54,000) speakers with this issue. When they then opened up their additional stock many suffered the same issue.

I was also shown pictures of speakers being received (supposedly) completely missing the driver with wires hanging out that were supposedly "ready to ship to the customer".
 
If this is true it is shooting yourself in the foot. Why would anyone do that? The mud slinging is not good for anyone involved.

MichaelsMinute said:
I was shown pictures showing speakers being received that were supposedly stained and covered in what look to be covered in urine. This was happening (supposedly from what they claim) quite a bit.

As it was explained to me, they had a customer receive a pair of Westminsters (~$54,000) speakers with this issue. When they then opened up their additional stock many suffered the same issue.

I was also shown pictures of speakers being received (supposedly) completely missing the driver with wires hanging out that were supposedly "ready to ship to the customer".
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