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  1. February 12, 2021, 08:06 AM #1
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    *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Grandioso M1X | OVERVIEW | ESOTERIC:Japan high-end audio manufacturer | エソテリック

    “[NEW PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT announcement]
    We will start selling ′′ Grandioso M1x ′′ that will be the flagship machine of the mo power amplifier from April.
    Grandioso M1x is a mo power amplifier, which has fully renewed the conventional grandioso m1 by many latest circuit technology, including the world's first super junction bipolatrangista ′′ Esoteric SJ-bjt01′′ in the power amplifier. I draw music to the passion that rises from the silence of the silence.

    Please visit our product page for more details.
    https://www.esoteric.jp/jp/product/m1x/top”
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  2. February 12, 2021, 02:10 PM #2
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Looks impressive! Lots of power. What’s the $?
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    cool!
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    And only 139 pounds. Two because they are monoblocks.
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    It seems they are suggesting an MSRP of 2.4MM Yen so about $23,000 to $24,000 each.
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Quote Originally Posted by crwilli View Post
    It seems they are suggesting an MSRP of 2.4MM Yen so about $23,000 to $24,000 each.
    Pretty reasonable pricing for monoblock amplifiers in today’s high-end audio world.

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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Looks nice. Classic Grandioso.
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Quote Originally Posted by crwilli View Post
    It seems they are suggesting an MSRP of 2.4MM Yen so about $23,000 to $24,000 each.
    When will people stop doing this... we, in North America, will not get the same pricing as in Japan.
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Quote Originally Posted by dznutz View Post
    When will people stop doing this... we, in North America, will not get the same pricing as in Japan.
    People only did the math using the published MSRP on their site to USD.
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Quote Originally Posted by crwilli View Post
    People only did the math using the published MSRP on their site to USD.
    Very reasonable assumption for the uninitiated, based solely on the equipment you own, you are not one of the unintiated and you know better. Expect each one of these Monos to retail for $35-$40K USD.
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    I’m eyeing the Grandioso M1X , just wondering if it would be a sideways move compared to
    my Constellation Centaur ll 500 Stereo , they sure would match my other esoteric gear
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    It's hardly ever a sideways move going from a good stereo amp to a good mono amp. If you own other Esoteric stuff it makes sense to continue with Esoteric to leverage the brand synergy.
    Speakers: Magico M3, Q3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso | Amplification: Halcro |
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  13. March 6, 2021, 10:36 PM #13
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    C1X/M1X monos are on my wish list!
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Mike, add the G1X to that list as well!
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    It's hardly ever a sideways move going from a good stereo amp to a good mono amp. If you own other Esoteric stuff it makes sense to continue with Esoteric to leverage the brand synergy.
    +1

    A full Grandioso system with the latest versions would be extremely compelling.

    State of the Art.

    Don't forget the ES-L XLR link to connect all your devices.

    If you acquire these amps.

    Please post your impressions here :-)
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    +1

    A full Grandioso system with the latest versions would be extremely compelling.

    State of the Art.

    Don't forget the ES-L XLR link to connect all your devices.

    If you acquire these amps.

    Please post your impressions here :-)
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    +1

    A full Grandioso system with the latest versions would be extremely compelling.

    State of the Art.

    Don't forget the ES-L XLR link to connect all your devices.

    If you acquire these amps.

    Please post your impressions here :-)
    Agreed...the ES-L XLR link is a leading reason to keep it all Grandioso.

    Also, not saying anything against Constellation by any means; I do think the C1X and M1X would be the ideal match sonically
    given what I've heard from Constellation amps in the past (that I like) and the past C1 and M1 combination. If it were me,
    I'd stick with C1X and M1X together, no doubt. The only deviation from all Esoteric in the stack that is being contemplated
    is the Lampi Pacific DAC which is an amazing piece.
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Quote Originally Posted by fathead View Post
    Using ES-L XLR to my K01 XD that’s another reason I upgraded
    Would you mind sharing the changes you observed when moving to the ES Link? Was it significant? Thanks.
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    The ES-L link, being a current driven analog connection, neuters the influence the cable has on the resulting sound. So a main benefit is you can use a cheaper cable. The difference in sound will depend on the quality/effect of the non ES-L voltage driven cable you're comparing it against.
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    The ES-L link, being a current driven analog connection, neuters the influence the cable has on the resulting sound. So a main benefit is you can use a cheaper cable. The difference in sound will depend on the quality/effect of the non ES-L voltage driven cable you're comparing it against.
    I've read similar. That being said, it certainly does make network cables (MIT, Transparent) a moot point with ES-L.

    However, given the resolution of these electronics, even with ES-L Link, I'd still think a quality cable would matter.

    Individuals who can play at this level, certainly don't skimp on cables.

    I remember a Youtube video years ago when it debuted , the Esoteric rep had the system wired with Odin.

    A Sigma V2 XLR loom would be amazing indeed with ES-L Link.
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Quote Originally Posted by SCAudiophile View Post
    Agreed...the ES-L XLR link is a leading reason to keep it all Grandioso.

    Also, not saying anything against Constellation by any means; I do think the C1X and M1X would be the ideal match sonically
    given what I've heard from Constellation amps in the past (that I like) and the past C1 and M1 combination. If it were me,
    I'd stick with C1X and M1X together, no doubt. The only deviation from all Esoteric in the stack that is being contemplated
    is the Lampi Pacific DAC which is an amazing piece.

    Also, if the mono amps are out of reach. We can assume, perhaps later this year or next , that the stereo version will arrive to replace the Grandioso S1.

    I bet it will be called S1X
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    I don't know if the C1X supports simultaneous output of ES-L and XLR. If it doesn't, if you connect the C1X>M1X with ES-L you won't be able to use a subwoofer (unless the subwoofer has a high level input).
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    Quote Originally Posted by mdp632 View Post
    Also, if the mono amps are out of reach. We can assume, perhaps later this year or next , that the stereo version will arrive to replace the Grandioso S1.

    I bet it will be called S1X
    Good point,...that's sure to arrive soon we hope!
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    M1X production has been delayed due to parts supply issue.
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    A new Esoteric distributor has been appointed to the U.S. market.
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    About time, do you know who it is?
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

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    *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    11 TC is owned by Klipsch. Not much (if anything) will change.


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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

    oh my
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    Re: *New* Esoteric Grandioso M1X Monos

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    oh my
    Why? Has there been any concerns?


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    11 TC is owned by Klipsch. Not much (if anything) will change.


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    I've certainly had concerns with the people at Onkyo, apparently when they ship you the wrong color its your fault. But this is going back years now. I assumed you had experienced issues with them as well, it appears you have not. Maybe Ill order something and see how it goes.
    No issues here. They’ve been great.


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    Mike, let us all know when the new distributor publishes the MSRP price list.
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    I’d like to know when the M1X becomes available. I’ll be interested as an early adopter to find a demo pair to see what improvements are lurking sound wise.
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    I’m trying to get a demo pair.


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    Nice and clean design IMHO, not heard them yet though.


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