EtherRegen

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I am having an issue and wanted to see if I could get some feedback. I have the N01 XD, and it was connected via an eero mesh system connected to an Etheregen, which was then connected to the Esoteric via a Shunyata Sigma Ethernet cable. Everything was working great. I decided to have my internet provider increase my wifi speed. When doing a speed test, we found the increased speed was not reaching to my Esoteric. The internet technician reset my eero to see if that would help. When we fired it back up, I got a LAN error message on the Esoteric. I then decided to just bypass the Etheregen, and the LAN message went away, and the unit works fine. Any reason why it now won’t work using the Etheregen?. I guess I should have left well enough alone.
 
Power off the EtherREGEN

Uplink - [B side] EtherREGEN [A side] - Esoteric

Wait for 10 minutes.

Power it on again.
 
Hi Peter,
You are saying have the A side connected to the Esoteric? I had the B side going into the Esoteric previously and it was working fine. However, I did reverse it at one point and was still having the same issue. But will try again.
 
Yes. Perhaps you didn't power cycle the EtherREGEN? And one more thing: use an unshielded network cable from the EtherREGEN to the Esoteric.

If that still does not work, you may ask them for EtherREGEN firmware update, but it's not clear to me it'll definitely solve the problem.
 
Yes. Perhaps you didn't power cycle the EtherREGEN? And one more thing: use an unshielded network cable from the EtherREGEN to the Esoteric.

If that still does not work, you may ask them for EtherREGEN firmware update, but it's not clear to me it'll definitely solve the problem.
Not trying to hijack the thread, but I am wondering if the same holds true for my LUMIN T2 and other LUMIN models - Will I get better sound if the cable from my ethernet switch (or Gigafoil) to the T2 is unshielded?

(The WW Starlight 8 and Avanti Vivace cables that I am swapping in and out are both shielded.)

Thanks for any advice.
 
Not trying to hijack the thread, but I am wondering if the same holds true for my LUMIN T2 and other LUMIN models - Will I get better sound if the cable from my ethernet switch (or Gigafoil) to the T2 is unshielded?

(The WW Starlight 8 and Avanti Vivace cables that I am swapping in and out are both shielded.)

Thanks for any advice.

Hi JCS123,

The Avanti Audio Vivace Ethernet cables are actually a "lifted shield", directional design. The shield is only tied to the connector body at the upstream end of the cable. The downstream end of the cable has the shield lifted. The shield does indeed travel down the length of the cable from its attachment point at the upstream connector and actively catches any EMI/RFI noise and drains it at the upstream end component. If you take a voltmeter and check continuity between the two metallic connector shells on either end of the cable, you'll see that there is no continuity between them.

This type of design helps to keep spurious noise from propogating downstream to the various connected components.

Just wanted to clarify [emoji3]
 
Hi JCS123,

The Avanti Audio Vivace Ethernet cables are actually a "lifted shield", directional design. The shield is only tied to the connector body at the upstream end of the cable. The downstream end of the cable has the shield lifted. The shield does indeed travel down the length of the cable from its attachment point at the upstream connector and actively catches any EMI/RFI noise and drains it at the upstream end component. If you take a voltmeter and check continuity between the two metallic connector shells on either end of the cable, you'll see that there is no continuity between them.

This type of design helps to keep spurious noise from propogating downstream to the various connected components.

Just wanted to clarify [emoji3]

Exactly right. I was going to chime in as well regarding unshielded vs. shielded Ethernet cables, but MikeCh nailed it here with the key points.

Another point I'll add for consideration is that using an unshielded or a cable with the downstream end of the cable has the shield lifted it will prevent the passage of high-source impedance leakage current, which can result in threshold jitter. Threshold jitter results in timing errors.
 
Exactly right. I was going to chime in as well regarding unshielded vs. shielded Ethernet cables, but MikeCh nailed it here with the key points.

Another point I'll add for consideration is that using an unshielded or a cable with the downstream end of the cable has the shield lifted it will prevent the passage of high-source impedance leakage current, which can result in threshold jitter. Threshold jitter results in timing errors.

Great additional information Puma. [emoji106]
 
Thanks to Mike and Puma. Without completely understanding all of the technical information, the bottom line is that the Vivace is a great-sounding cable.
 
I had a similar issue with the Bricasti and etherRegen. After working perfectly since I installed it years ago, it stopped working. I tried various configurations, but the dirty side would not send through to the clean side. I figured it was broken. I contacted the nice folks at Uptone, and they helped out.

Of course, it was my overly complicated network. (Cable modem - Edge Router - ubiquiti switch - hub in my study - optical to the etherRegen - copper to Bricasti)
They describe Roon as messy, and bandwidth needy. Lots of stuff coming and going, searching for metadata, etc.

Resetting all, starting in order with the Modem, and disconnecting stuff that did not need to be connected, fixed my problem.

I am certainly not a network wizard, but I should look into prioritizing the connection between the switch and the upstairs hub. (YouTube is great sometimes)

I also might look into Audirvana. Roon is pretty good though, and usually runs well for me.
 
..Another point I'll add for consideration is that using an unshielded or a cable with the downstream end of the cable has the shield lifted it will prevent the passage of high-source impedance leakage current, which can result in threshold jitter...

Reminds me about a story of batch of faulty Audioquest network cables that had the shield connected at both ends. They should have the shield connected only at the upstream end. AQ RMA'd the faulty cables and replaced them.
 
I am having an issue and wanted to see if I could get some feedback. I have the N01 XD, and it was connected via an eero mesh system connected to an Etheregen, which was then connected to the Esoteric via a Shunyata Sigma Ethernet cable...

I had N-01 and an ER with 10Mhz clock input option. It never worked properly so I returned the ER to the dealer. I use a Pakedge 5-port POE powered unmanaged switch. I found it to be much better than the ER.
 
Reminds me about a story of batch of faulty Audioquest network cables that had the shield connected at both ends. They should have the shield connected only at the upstream end. AQ RMA'd the faulty cables and replaced them.

Good to hear. Just a note as someone who worked with product development & Ops teams in tehcnical product manufacturing: there are no perfect mfg processes or products. Failure modes (a failure mode is anything that can go wrong) can and do occur. What's important are the processes and procedures that the company has in place to provide technical documentation for manufacturing operators, statistical process control (SPC), and QC protocols, a statistically-valid sampling plan of finished goods, and an effective QA process (quality assurance is not the same thing as quality control) for dealing with quality problems that end up in the hands of customers. Sounds like in this instance, AQ had this under control.
 
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