Esoteric N-01XD

GSOphile said:
The N-01XD has both USB and Ethernet network interfaces with similar specs. I am under the impression that USB is the ubiquitous interface offering across streamer products but that Ethernet may have technical advantages. There also appear to be a galaxy of gizmo attachment devices that some consider essential for getting the best sound out of products like the N-01XD. For those of you with N-01XD experience or plans to acquire one, which is your preferred network interface and why? Do you consider the USB/Ethernet interface differences significant r.e. SQ/usability?
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I have the N-01XD using it via its Ethernet input / interface, and have zero interest in trying other digital inputs. It sounds fabulous !
 
Thyname,

I started to do some testing with the Esoteric Sound stream app before i get my player.

Did you place your music on a NAS. I loaded my test music on my Synology NAS under the Music folder.

I was able to see all the songs and the album art fine at first. I then did a "Reload Music Library" and now i have a complete duplicate entry off all songs. But the
duplicate has no album art. I have tried deleting the esoteric app and reinstalling but it still exists. I also deleted the folder and songs on the nas and recreated it. It still has the
duplication. It's like the sound stream app put some hidden files somewhere and i can't find them.

I did notice that there are 2 folders under "Recently Added" One has all the songs and no art. The other has all songs and album art. How do i clean up this mess.

The other question is if you have a nas, did you load the minimServer. I don't understand why you would have to do this. It's in the Sound Stream manual on page 2.

Or maybe i'm having these problems because i need to be connected to the player.
 
Please install MinimServer Free edition on the NAS - yes you're highly recommended to do this. And disable the NAS built in media server.
 
adol290 said:
Thyname,

I started to do some testing with the Esoteric Sound stream app before i get my player.

Did you place your music on a NAS. I loaded my test music on my Synology NAS under the Music folder.

I was able to see all the songs and the album art fine at first. I then did a "Reload Music Library" and now i have a complete duplicate entry off all songs. But the
duplicate has no album art. I have tried deleting the esoteric app and reinstalling but it still exists. I also deleted the folder and songs on the nas and recreated it. It still has the
duplication. It's like the sound stream app put some hidden files somewhere and i can't find them.

I did notice that there are 2 folders under "Recently Added" One has all the songs and no art. The other has all songs and album art. How do i clean up this mess.

The other question is if you have a nas, did you load the minimServer. I don't understand why you would have to do this. It's in the Sound Stream manual on page 2.

Or maybe i'm having these problems because i need to be connected to the player.
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Sorry, I don’t use a NAS. My music is inside my server, internal drive I put inside my Server (a Nucleus)
 
Do you see any MinimServer in the Package Center? Not required to use the latest version.
 
There was no Minimserver in the package center, or Java.

My Synology was up to date.

So just installed minimserver 2 and Java.

All ok now.
 
You might want to consider changing from the Soundstream app to the Lumin app as it's much more current and regularly updated which the Soundstream app is not.
 
GSOphile said:
For those of you with N-01XD experience or plans to acquire one, which is your preferred network interface and why? Do you consider the USB/Ethernet interface differences significant r.e. SQ/usability?
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For USB input, the SQ may be dependent on your USB source. If you spend a great of money on it, it becomes a question of how much money is worth the improvement, if any. If you choose this approach, disable the network board power supply in the N-01XD setting menu.

For usability, again it depends on the source streamer. If you use a Lumin or Esoteric N-03T, you retain the same app UI as the Esoteric app / functionality, and DSD512 capability (or DSD256 for U1 MINI). If you use a non-Lumin streamer, then the app UI is different. There is also an issue of DSD256 / DSD512 compatibility with a non-Lumin/Esoteric streamer.
 
Jack said:
You might want to consider changing from the Soundstream app to the Lumin app as it's much more current and regularly updated which the Soundstream app is not.
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I have an N-01XD incoming. I want to use Roon, but can't until it's certified, so is this an option? I can substitute the Lumin app for the Soundstream app and it just works?
 
2fastdriving said:
I have an N-01XD incoming. I want to use Roon, but can't until it's certified, so is this an option? I can substitute the Lumin app for the Soundstream app and it just works?
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Yes or Esoteric app (same exact thing). You may find it ultimately sounds better.

Just saying...
 
Mike said:
Yes or Esoteric app (same exact thing). You may find it ultimately sounds better.

Just saying...
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Oh, so the Lumin app and Esoteric are identical? the person I quoted says the Lumin one is updated more often. They both don't seem as fully featured as Roon. I love Roon and bought a lifetime subscription, so I am really hoping they certify soon AND there is no loss in sound quality. Roon has been very good sounding for me so far...
 
2fastdriving said:
Oh, so the Lumin app and Esoteric are identical? the person I quoted says the Lumin one is updated more often. They both don't seem as fully featured as Roon. I love Roon and bought a lifetime subscription, so I am really hoping they certify soon AND there is no loss in sound quality. Roon has been very good sounding for me so far...
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Esoteric is working on certification for Roon (I ask often). The Esoteric app (developed by Lumin) seems great to me and sounds terrific.
 
Works for me with the Teac NT-505 (same company) and always has flawlessly. You gain the advantage of the latest applicable upgrades. I don't think either the Teac or Esoteric app has been updated in some time. Any of the three apps will work so take your pick.
 
Mike said:
Esoteric is working on certification for Roon (I ask often). The Esoteric app (developed by Lumin) seems great to me and sounds terrific.
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Got it. I have a very nice network bridge (SotM SMS-200 ultra neo special edition with the associated linear power supply) and I really like it. Ideally, I'll be able to sell it after the N-01XD is Roon certified, but before I do, I plan to do some SQ comparisons between the Esoteric/Lumin app via Ethernet and Roon via SoTm/USB and see how things shake out.

Either way, I am sure things will sound fantastic! Can't wait.
 
2fastdriving said:
I have an N-01XD incoming. I want to use Roon, but can't until it's certified, so is this an option? I can substitute the Lumin app for the Soundstream app and it just works?
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It is not Roon Ready certified. It is in process to be certified, but not there yet. If you ordered it after 9/21/20, you are out of luck, you have to wait until Roon certifies it. If you ordered it before that date, you will need to prove it to Roon, and they give you a “developer” status to use it with Roon.
 
u-sound said:
well, certainly the two, tube dac or n1xd are top units and it might come down to synergy over the last bit of quality.
what i can tell you for sure, the tube dac will be perfect with the 300p. also the internal pre of the tube dac in this combination is at least as good as with an additional classic pre. thats the system my nagra dealer praises a lot. really liked it myself too.
i think it depends on your long term planning about your amp. will you stay with the 300p? if yes, then the tube dac will be hard to beat. if no, the tube dac is still a top dac. but then you might need a pre.
and if streaming is your goal, you will need to wait a couple more monthes for the nagra streamer, and yes, pay for it.
the nagra streamer + tube dac + psu + 3 plattforms.....that is more than double the price of the n1xd.
again, your bill is a bit different, n1xd would mean adding a pre at high level (plus powercorcd, interconnect)
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Finally, I ordered a Nagra Tube DAC to go direct into the Nagra 300p. Can't wait for it to arrive.

P.S thanks for your feedback u-sound.
 
wow! very cool, you will love it with your 300p!! your decision makes so much sense as things will fit together. did you order the psu as well?
i can tell you, i regret to have sold mine. still havent ordered the n-01xd btw. i want to puzzle everything else together and then choose the streamer-dac with the best synergy with it.
 
Yes, I ordered the whole shebang: Classic PSU, VFS, DAC. It should arrive this week. I can't wait, the biggest audio purchase I have ever made, 4X my last biggest purchase :disbelief:

I am waiting for your N-01XD to come, so I could hear your opinion on it.
 
very very cool. painful price, on the other hand you get one of the most satisfaying music systems available.
my dealer who has access to basicly anything choosed this one for himself. loved it myself every time, utterly beautiful.
 
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