Why no turntable?

What I am finding is that for the most part my digital is better (obviously they are at completely different levels), but I have found a couple of situations where I would say the vinyl (even on my cheepy table) sounds better. Two albums in particular are mind blowing. One my buddy gave me for all the work I have done for him, Fleetwood Mac, which is a remastered from original master tapes and pressed on 180g 45 RPM vinyl. The other is the Pink Floyd The Wall, remastered from original master tapes and and pressed on 180g vinyl. Both are startling and better then any other copy I have heard.

I have a Clearaudio record clamp arriving today and a cleaning machine arriving tomorrow. Not a high level like other's here have (yes Ed, I am looking at you :D), but should help doing a deep cleaning on the vinyl.

I will probably add a Blue Stylus and I should be solid for a while. I may take my buddy up on his offer to borrow an external phono stage just to see the difference. He has three so he will definitely have one available. Any of my records that my new machine cannot get perfect he will give his "special treatment" on, which he says will 100% take care of any issues :).
 
Kingrex said:
I changed my VTA a few times yesterday. Finally got it to where I feel it sounds best. So far. Probably needs more adjusting. Also going to demo a Sensitive Sound cartridge.

I keep fiddling Mike because I don't know where best is. When you play at a level we are all at,it's the little adjustmets that find the ahhhh. Or so I think. I'm impressed with what my vinyle has done in the past. I have never gotten it past what my digital can do, yet everyone says it should. So now I'm trying the little tweeks to find that last it. Yesterday it was doing darn good. I did not bother going back and forth between my baseline vinyl and digital files. I was just enjoying.

My server also goes in for a software update in a couple weeks. I need my vinyl working well. Sonething has tontie me over.
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I’m glad your jumping over and putting additional effort into to the T/T - if you have it, then get the most out of it!

Even for me this is hard to say, but get it to a point then stop!

Listen and appreciate what you have!

You can fiddle F’ until your blue in the face!


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Randy Myers said:
What I am finding is that for the most part my digital is better (obviously they are at completely different levels), but I have found a couple of situations where I would say the vinyl (even on my cheepy table) sounds better. Two albums in particular are mind blowing. One my buddy gave me for all the work I have done for him, Fleetwood Mac, which is a remastered from original master tapes and pressed on 180g 45 RPM vinyl. The other is the Pink Floyd The Wall, remastered from original master tapes and and pressed on 180g vinyl. Both are startling and better then any other copy I have heard.

I have a Clearaudio record clamp arriving today and a cleaning machine arriving tomorrow. Not a high level like other's here have (yes Ed, I am looking at you :D), but should help doing a deep cleaning on the vinyl.

I will probably add a Blue Stylus and I should be solid for a while. I may take my buddy up on his offer to borrow an external phono stage just to see the difference. He has three so he will definitely have one available. Any of my records that my new machine cannot get perfect he will give his "special treatment" on, which he says will 100% take care of any issues :).
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Honestly last night, I was going back and forth between the inputs DAC and Phono listening to songs from the Doors Soft Parade, and the Analog was more dynamic on a better sound stage than the downloaded version but digital was quieter - both are the new remasters from analog tape and IMO good. Streaming was not far behind the downloaded version.

The records seem to be a key factor, and it’s an effort to know and find the right ones.



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I have been on and off with it. I had an RP6 before I had the server. Only for a few weeks. I just never got the TT dialed in. Well actually it was pretty darn good. Then my house cleaner ripped the stylus off the cartridge. I got a new Exact cartridge from Rega. It never sounded the same. During a cleaning session I noticed the cantilever would flex way to the right, but not move at all to the left. I was also told the diamond was worn out after 50 of so records. I though I was given a bad replacement. I sent it back to Rega but they told me to pound sand. I don't know I like Rega or not. I got a new motor last week and it was warbling some. The dealer actually had an engineer on the phone from Rega. Told me to let it run for a few days to heat up and move the fluids around. It seems to run fine now. That was nice they took the time to talk to a nobody.

Its actually surprising me how good my vinyl sounds now. For a homemade plinth I'm impressed. But I think what I did is solid and similar to what Vertere builds. They use Acrylic so I did to match the arm. I bonded the acrylic to Corian for additional strength and dampening. So far it seems to work. Still thinking of a Direct Drive. Maybe an SP10 or the STST Motus.


UltraFast69 said:
I’m glad your jumping over and putting additional effort into to the T/T - if you have it, then get the most out of it!

Even for me this is hard to say, but get it to a point then stop!

Listen and appreciate what you have!

You can fiddle F’ until your blue in the face!


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I still have to acknowledge, my entire system transformed when I put the Add-Power Symphony and Electraclear on my power strip. It has stepped up all components in my system. It's just nicer to listen too all around.
 
Kingrex said:
I still have to acknowledge, my entire system transformed when I put the Add-Power Symphony and Electraclear on my power strip. It has stepped up all components in my system. It's just nicer to listen too all around.
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To me Add-POWR adds to the foundation, and if the foundation is not strong with electrical, grounding and isolation then you are not getting the most out of your system, and for they guys that don’t get this, they start chasing speakers and components and that has to be expensive!


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Randy, upgrading to the Blue stylus will make a nice difference. Personally I do not like the Ortofon Red. I think it is way overhyped. It find it bright, grainy, noisy and irritating. It is dynamic and punchy. The Blue is a little smoother but similar.

If you decide to upgrade to a better phono preamp, consider the Lounge Audio LCR III. It got an excellent write up in Stereophile. I had a friend loan me his LCR III Silver addition which was phenomenal. Detailed, very wide and deep sound stage. Very musical with good texture and punch. It performs well above its price point.
 
Agree with Larry about the Red and another great option for a reasonably priced phono stage is the Vista Audio Phono II which is built in NY and unless something has changed since I bought mine Boris will let you try it out first. Fully flexible gain and loading options for if at some time in the future you want to try a MC cartridge.
 
That pre looks pretty good, and in the range I would be considering.

Looks like another good choice Jack. It is nice to know when/if I decide to go that route that there are some solid choices!

Record clamp came in today, Record Doctor tomorrow. I am always fairly particular in taking care of albums. Not opposed to doing a little work. It sound like it is a solid vacuum cleaner for reasonable price.
 
Got home from work. Spun some vinyl and played some Qobuz. I just like the Qubuz so much more. Maybe my open baffle and tubes asks for something more clean. Just speculating. I just enjoy the digital so much more. It works very well in my setup.
 
That definitely makes total sense. I got to get all my vinyl deep cleaned and then next step will be the Blue stylus. Hoping to check out one of Dan's phone stages, and will probably look to go that way.

I still love and prefer digital, but having fun playing with vinyl.
 
Kingrex said:
Got home from work. Spun some vinyl and played some Qobuz. I just like the Qubuz so much more. Maybe my open baffle and tubes asks for something more clean. Just speculating. I just enjoy the digital so much more. It works very well in my setup.
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Vinyl is like a fine wine with a fine meal. It takes time, but it’s so worth it.


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Mike said:
Vinyl is like a fine wine with a fine meal. It takes time, but it’s so worth it.


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Agree with you Mike. I’ve been in my music room this evening spinning vinyl; no digital tonight. I like and enjoy both but there’s “special sauce” to vinyl.
 
Randy Myers said:
That definitely makes total sense. I got to get all my vinyl deep cleaned and then next step will be the Blue stylus. Hoping to check out one of Dan's phone stages, and will probably look to go that way.

I still love and prefer digital, but having fun playing with vinyl.
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Can’t stress enough, the Blue takes it to a nice level, I think mine just settled in to its sweet spot. Only buy the Stylus and not the whole cartridge - super easy to change out!


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Ritmo said:
Agree with you Mike. I’ve been in my music room this evening spinning vinyl; no digital tonight. I like and enjoy both but there’s “special sauce” to vinyl.
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Mike, I agree with you and Mike!

I am really happy what’s running here and would have been a few year back if I had done Analog at the onset following the plan, but no regrets, it’s full steam ahead!


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