Vinyl Cleaning - The Dirty Truth Letter from Mat Weisfeld, VPI Industries

Steve said:
Wayne... Show me a label at any price with a better quality product?

I have no problem buying MoFI with confidence too. They do a great job with their label "categories" also.
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I think that QRP has taken the quality of record pressings to a place it has never been before. I smile every time I buy a QRP pressing and I smile every time I play a QRP pressing.
 
mep said:
I think that QRP has taken the quality of record pressings to a place it has never been before. I smile every time I buy a QRP pressing and I smile every time I play a QRP pressing.
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I've never hear of QRP. Is there a catelog? More info please!
 
Golucid said:
I've never hear of QRP. Is there a catelog? More info please!
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QRP = quality record pressings

That is Chad Kassem's/Acoustic Sounds' pressing facility. They not only press their own but for other labels now. Check out analog planet.com for more info.
 
Myles B. Astor said:
QRP = quality record pressings

That is Chad Kassem's/Acoustic Sounds' pressing facility. They not only press their own but for other labels now. Check out analog planet.com for more info.
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QRP prices are reasonable for what you are getting and they will allow small pressing numbers , works well for current projects.



How about that ... :)
 
..lots of talk.....I have had a Nitty Gritty for many years, but hardly use it. I never touch the record surface, only the edges, I sweep with a Hunt brush before playing, and use a hunk of Magic Eraser glued to a quarter for my stylus, and my records remain quiet, and enjoyable. I never find a glop of schmutz clinging to the stylus. For me, it takes too much time and energy to clean records with not enough satisfaction in return.
 
MusicDirector said:
Wow, bummer...total derailment here.
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I believe we are still on point. The issue is finding that vinyl listening nirvana. Cleaning: is it the machine, the vinyl, both? There is no is "I have the answer - nobody does" but rather, seeking to understand...everyone has something to contribute that may be a great idea in nailing down what works most for the ultimate vinyl experience - cleaning methods.
 
I bought my first VPI cleaning machine back in the mid '80's (about 30 years ago). IIRC it was a VPI 16 when the suction tube was mounted diagonally on the top. I cleaned all 15,000 of my records with various VPI models, and cleaned almost all of them again (including the many used records I bought from London in the past 18 years) when I switched to Disc Doctor liquids and brushed, still using a VPI to do the suction for the cleaning solution and then the distilled water rinse. When I started my ripping project 5 years ago, I was just ripping records that I had cleaned with the VPI/DD method. At about 2000 records into the ripping, I discovered the Audio Deske System Ultrasonic cleaner and recleaned the last 7500 records (which had all beeen previously cleaned by VPI/DD).

Except for a handfull of records that have only been cleaned by the Audio Deske that I have acquired in the past 3 years - almost all new pressings, all my records have been cleaned at least two, some three time (VPI, VPIDD and ADS). There are are still about 5000 records that have only been cleaned by VPI, VPIDD or just VPIDD, which I do not plan on ripping.

So my experience with record cleaners has been long and very positive, but with almost all records have been cleaned at least twice with two different systems, I don't have good comparisons with the effects of different methods. I haven't tried this but it may be like cleaning the carpet with two different vacuum cleaners. The second one will always pick up something that the first one leaves behind, no matter which one you start with.

BTW, the vast majority of my 15,000 LP's have been purchased used (that however means I still have a few thousand I have purchased new.)

Larry
 
Myles B. Astor said:
I think moderation should be left to the moderators.
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Myles, I wasn't trying to take that roll by any means. Please don't read things into my post, alright? I was only mentioning it because I was really interested in the original subject and all of the sudden it was cost of records and it threw me.
 
astrotoy said:
I bought my first VPI cleaning machine back in the mid '80's (about 30 years ago). IIRC it was a VPI 16 when the suction tube was mounted diagonally on the top. I cleaned all 15,000 of my records with various VPI models, and cleaned almost all of them again (including the many used records I bought from London in the past 18 years) when I switched to Disc Doctor liquids and brushed, still using a VPI to do the suction for the cleaning solution and then the distilled water rinse. When I started my ripping project 5 years ago, I was just ripping records that I had cleaned with the VPI/DD method. At about 2000 records into the ripping, I discovered the Audio Deske System Ultrasonic cleaner and recleaned the last 7500 records (which had all beeen previously cleaned by VPI/DD).

Except for a handfull of records that have only been cleaned by the Audio Deske that I have acquired in the past 3 years - almost all new pressings, all my records have been cleaned at least two, some three time (VPI, VPIDD and ADS). There are are still about 5000 records that have only been cleaned by VPI, VPIDD or just VPIDD, which I do not plan on ripping.

So my experience with record cleaners has been long and very positive, but with almost all records have been cleaned at least twice with two different systems, I don't have good comparisons with the effects of different methods. I haven't tried this but it may be like cleaning the carpet with two different vacuum cleaners. The second one will always pick up something that the first one leaves behind, no matter which one you start with.

BTW, the vast majority of my 15,000 LP's have been purchased used (that however means I still have a few thousand I have purchased new.)

Larry
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15000 LPs cleaned, must be some kind of a "record" ...... :)
 
Larry...After cleaning some 7500+ records with the Audio Desk, how is the machine holding up?
 
Steve said:
Larry...After cleaning some 7500+ records with the Audio Desk, how is the machine holding up?
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Good question. If it's holding up well after all that assault, it's safe to say that it is a very well built machine, (little doubt it isn't). With that amount of records there is no doubt about the need for it. It scares me to think about doing that many on my VPI, not that it may not hold up, but I wouldn't and I don't mind taking time to clean records at all. Makes me thankful that I only have a handful of records compared to almost everyone here.
 
I relocated into the office closet all three vinyl cleaning machines. Next week, I have an electrician coming in to install two electrical outlets into the closet. Later in the month, I will have an L shape desk created to accommodate the machines in a side by side order. This will give me ample room to add a Monks, ClearAudio Double Matrix Sonic and to build and add the V8 too. I'm in heaven - I get to experiment with all the top vinyl cleaning machines.
 
Golucid said:
I relocated into the office closet all three vinyl cleaning machines. Next week, I have an electrician coming in to install two electrical outlets into the closet. Later in the month, I will have an L shape desk created to accommodate the machines in a side by side order. This will give me ample room to add a Monks, ClearAudio Double Matrix Sonic and to build and add the V8 too. I'm in heaven - I get to experiment with all the top vinyl cleaning machines.
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Now that there is just too good!:)
Let us know how the ClearAudio Double Matrix does, it's kind of interesting.
 
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