Working with China for manufacturing....experiences?

MikeCh

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Hey Guys,

My wife and I are exploring a new business venture (not audio or electronics related) whereby we'll need a "textile/plastics" product line to be manufactured in China in order to see our vision through.

Have any of you ever dealt direct with a Chinese manufacturer / supplier and might offer some advice for us?
 
Hey Guys,

My wife and I are exploring a new business venture (not audio or electronics related) whereby we'll need a "textile/plastics" product line to be manufactured in China in order to see our vision through.

Have any of you ever dealt direct with a Chinese manufacturer / supplier and might offer some advice for us?

You may want to contact Gary Koh who is the owner of Genesis and speak to him to see if he can offer you any guidance. I think Gary has contacts everywhere. If you have products you designed manufactured by the Chinese, don't be surprised if you see your products appears on store shelves under a different name at 1/2 the cost of your products. :|
 
You may want to contact Gary Koh who is the owner of Genesis and speak to him to see if he can offer you any guidance. I think Gary has contacts everywhere. If you have products you designed manufactured by the Chinese, don't be surprised if you see your products appears on store shelves under a different name at 1/2 the cost of your products. :|

Thanks Mark, I'll try Gary and see what he might be able to share.

Yes, what you mention is but one of our concerns. Not sure we can protect ourselves even if we were to find somebody to agree to an initial covenant prior to any formal contracts, etc.
 
Mike,

I have had an engineering office in Shenzhen for the last 15 years. I make most of my tooling there which is in turn used in my manufacturing facility in the USA. The following is based exclusively on my experience. I am sure others have had very different outcomes. You really can't make any blanket statements about the eastern rim....it represents all outcomes.

In a nut shell I advise boots-on-the-ground that you control for any meaningful long term endeavor. The standard deviation on most things is higher there than what you may be accustomed to sourcing product in the USA. That said, with the proper due diligence and local project management that you control (i.e., directly employ) you can source world class product today (much different than even 10 years ago). The challenge is ongoing quality control as it is a very dynamic place.

What Mark said about intellectual property piracy is absolutely true. Noncompetes aren't worth the paper they are written on as enforcement is very difficult.

Big picture wise, a lot of capital is flowing out of China these days due to overcapacity, excess leverage, and slowing growth. There is a lot of system risk right now given the asset bubbles from excess stimulus but if you can avoid the implosion, these same issues may work to your advantage as prices have started to soften for the first time in a long while.

Good luck, be careful and have fun.
 
Hey Guys,

My wife and I are exploring a new business venture (not audio or electronics related) whereby we'll need a "textile/plastics" product line to be manufactured in China in order to see our vision through.

Have any of you ever dealt direct with a Chinese manufacturer / supplier and might offer some advice for us?

I deal in India and China as wells others. Textile/plastics is not my line but in Salem India tons of Textile .

What type of advice do you need or want. Have you gone to China in the past few years. Are you buying in container lots because that is all I have ever done because LCL costs to much. Ask away if I can tell you any thing I will I have gone to China every year since 1999 I was and still am in India before that Africa before that. Vietnam is the up coming market as far as I know.
 
Thanks for your insight Paul and Garth.

And yes, arthurs....Mexico is an option too, thanks.
 
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