Wood Diffuser help

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I'd like to adde a wood diffuser between my speakers. The spot I'd like to put it in is perfect for up to approx. 24" square diffuser.

There are so many shape, kinds and brands of wood diffusers I'm no sure which to consider that are ACTUALLY effective.

I use GIK for my absorption and like their products, however I'm not sure how their diffusion is where they are relatively flat panels for that size vs. something more effective.

Suggestions and advice is welcomed!

Thanks guys.
 
you got to understand that diffusion will only work in a bigger context.

one thing is that propper diffusion would need deep panels that go down to 200 hz. those costs a lot and you would need A LOT of them. forget the little space between your speakers, a big part of the frontwall would need to be covered and the BACKWALL needs to be very covered. makes your room smaller. and costs a LOT. then, there is a physically defined distance from the wall to seating position. you need a pro to calculate it.
another thing, room treatment is also room, speaker and preference/music dependent.
there is a time difference between direct sound and reflected sound and diffusors might alter that to your dislike (or improve it to your liking).

a million people have bought diffusors but only a handful got true diffusion.if you want good acoustic, your fundament is bass absorbtion. you focus from 60hz to 200hz. it is safe as you cant really overabsorb.
then, if you want more, you got to think deeply about a concept for the entirety. whatever you choose, it has to be broadband. means if you choose absorbtion panels, they should be 20 cm think to go down to 200hz, otherwise they just create imbalance.

as for frontwall, there is no clear science. modern approaches go towards curved and wavy designs. diffusors are a bit outdated and some acosticians try to just scatter the sound behind the seating position on ceiling, sidewall and backwall towards the corners.

many including me, do belive that currently the best panels, respectively the best rooms worldwide are done by smt from sweden.
http://www.diffusor.com/PDF/Broschyr 2012 LAYOUT_komp wing sida.pdf
rather than a panel between speakers, my recommondation would be to buy 3 of the acrilic wings and place them right behind your chair / sofa, maybe half a meter. 10 times the effect and save to be on the good side.
you can add more wings on the first refletion points at the sidewall and later also on the frontwall.

Tutzing – Bernried | My-Sound
this room for example is all around treated with smt wings and then covered with fabric.
 
u-sound said:
you got to understand that diffusion will only work in a bigger context.

one thing is that propper diffusion would need deep panels that go down to 200 hz. those costs a lot and you would need A LOT of them. forget the little space between your speakers, a big part of the frontwall would need to be covered and the BACKWALL needs to be very covered. makes your room smaller. and costs a LOT. then, there is a physically defined distance from the wall to seating position. you need a pro to calculate it.
another thing, room treatment is also room, speaker and preference/music dependent.
there is a time difference between direct sound and reflected sound and diffusors might alter that to your dislike (or improve it to your liking).

a million people have bought diffusors but only a handful got true diffusion.if you want good acoustic, your fundament is bass absorbtion. you focus from 60hz to 200hz. it is safe as you cant really overabsorb.
then, if you want more, you got to think deeply about a concept for the entirety. whatever you choose, it has to be broadband. means if you choose absorbtion panels, they should be 20 cm think to go down to 200hz, otherwise they just create imbalance.

as for frontwall, there is no clear science. modern approaches go towards curved and wavy designs. diffusors are a bit outdated and some acosticians try to just scatter the sound behind the seating position on ceiling, sidewall and backwall towards the corners.

many including me, do belive that currently the best panels, respectively the best rooms worldwide are done by smt from sweden.
http://www.diffusor.com/PDF/Broschyr 2012 LAYOUT_komp wing sida.pdf
rather than a panel between speakers, my recommondation would be to buy 3 of the acrilic wings and place them right behind your chair / sofa, maybe half a meter. 10 times the effect and save to be on the good side.
you can add more wings on the first refletion points at the sidewall and later also on the frontwall.

Tutzing – Bernried | My-Sound
this room for example is all around treated with smt wings and then covered with fabric.
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Thank you.

I do currently have bass traps that are working well. I'm going to check out what you linked to. Thanks again.
 
welcome. worth doing your own research about.

i meant the transparent wings, not the s-acrylic. thats the homepage (unfortunately not the best one)
Nyheter
 
rrwmd said:
Vicoustics makes some nice wood diffusers in various finishes. I use them at a few locations in my room along with various other treatments. Mike uses some of these at the Suncoast store. They’re available in a 24” size.

Multifuser Wood MKII - Vicoustic
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I'll check them out. Thank you. From a brief look it looks in line with what I was thinking in my head.
 
pArtScience quadratic diffusers sold by Sweetwater...
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I installed an RD Acoustics hybrid diffuser a couple of months ago as part of the effort to improve the acoustics of this room. It is 120" wide x 78" tall x 5" deep, ~ 140 lbs.). Approaching this in a gradual manner but along with some other additions the room has improved demonstrably. And for once I did not have to coerce my wife; she finds the RD Acoustic device very attractive compared to the alternatives we have used in the past. It is really eye catching and quite the conversation piece.

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My advice to the OP is to approach several of the manufacturers of the products and see what they recommend. They will likely ask you for basic information like room dimensions, room materials, and information about your set up. Any attempt to wing it by attempting to use what worked for others in their rooms and their set up will likely end up in disappointment.
 
mxk116 said:
I installed an RD Acoustics hybrid diffuser a couple of months ago as part of the effort to improve the acoustics of this room. It is 120" wide x 78" tall x 5" deep, ~ 140 lbs.). Approaching this in a gradual manner but along with some other additions the room has improved demonstrably. And for once I did not have to coerce my wife; she finds the RD Acoustic device very attractive compared to the alternatives we have used in the past. It is really eye catching and quite the conversation piece.

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That is AMAZING.
 
nicoff said:
My advice to the OP is to approach several of the manufacturers of the products and see what they recommend. They will likely ask you for basic information like room dimensions, room materials, and information about your set up. Any attempt to wing it by attempting to use what worked for others in their rooms and their set up will likely end up in disappointment.
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I concur. I’ve learned over the years that room treatment requires a wholistic approach. Every room is different and if you don’t know where you’re going, any map will get you there.
 
Great advice. It is also useful to measure the room with REW to ensure you are treating correctly.

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nicoff said:
My advice to the OP is to approach several of the manufacturers of the products and see what they recommend. They will likely ask you for basic information like room dimensions, room materials, and information about your set up. Any attempt to wing it by attempting to use what worked for others in their rooms and their set up will likely end up in disappointment.
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Totally agree!
 
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