Why You Need More Than Just "Trusting Your Ears"

Eh?? I'm saying the average end user/Audiophile should really only "need" to measure for one purpose, < 500hz aka the room/speaker. I build active (amplified) speakers, but have never once measured THD. It helps to know why.

For all the huff going around about we can measure everything and the concept of tools vs hearing, I feel like this is ending pretty flat. Sort of like were back to, measure for peaks and dips on low frequency room response.
 
That's an audiophile concept. Outside, its tools and hearing. Non binary choices.

cheers,

AJ

Exactly. It is not about tools OR hearing. It is about using both. Should not be a difficult concept to grasp really.
 
I certainly can see the use of both. I think in this thread we have pretty much came to this conclusion. I loved the way that everyone put forth their thoughts and everyone keep everything civil. Awesome everyone! So my take is we have mostly a consensus that neither by themselves are as good as using both, depending on circumstance and personal tastes of course.
 
I certainly can see the use of both. I think in this thread we have pretty much came to this conclusion. I loved the way that everyone put forth their thoughts and everyone keep everything civil. Awesome everyone! So my take is we have mostly a consensus that neither by themselves are as good as using both, depending on circumstance and personal tastes of course.

I agree Randy. I believe everyone here always believed using microphones to understand room modes below 500 herts was beneficial. I have a mic and mini DSP myself. What I believe some question is can we measure everything we hear. I respect AJ and he has presented a few compelling sources. I have not delved into these sources and technologies. But this is AJ's profession and specialty so I will take him at his word that we can measure everything we can hear.

What I would love to see and find amazing would be if you could sit in one of those Egg like chairs with speakers in them. Then have someone program in your room and speakers. Then use the program to insert absorber/diffuser devices and listen to the affect before ever purchasing the devices and installing them.

I was looking at one of my customers computer modeled room by a company selling absorber/diffuser. My comment was 1. The drawing is amazing. Great computer model. 2. The room looks way over damped. Like the life is being sucked out of it. He agreed. I have been in this companies showroom. It was the worst feeling every. It was actually disturbing and in a way "loud". Like a roaring silence. I hated it and told them as such. They were offended and though the room was the best out there. And they may believe it. But it sure would be nice to use technology to give a customer a taste of what that room would be before spending the $16,000 to $22,000 on the devices they are pitching.
 
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