Why the Cloak and Dagger?

Sounds as if the OP got his 15 mins of fame from his YT video. :D

I've been thinking about how "Made in China" always sparks such interesting chats. Take my iPhone, for instance. It says "Designed by Apple in California," but it's actually made in China, and might even be made in India soon. Apple really shows us that it's more about how something is made rather than where it's made.

I'm old enough to remember when Japanese cars first hit the US and everyone was dissing them. I had this German buddy who was dead sure no one would ever buy a Lexus – "Who's gonna shell out for a Japanese luxury car?", he said. Well, he couldn't have been more wrong, and it even made the German car makers step up their game. Funny how things change.
 
nicoff said:
Sounds as if the OP got his 15 mins of fame from his YT video. :D

I've been thinking about how "Made in China" always sparks such interesting chats. Take my iPhone, for instance. It says "Designed by Apple in California," but it's actually made in China, and might even be made in India soon. Apple really shows us that it's more about how something is made rather than where it's made.

I'm old enough to remember when Japanese cars first hit the US and everyone was dissing them. I had this German buddy who was dead sure no one would ever buy a Lexus – "Who's gonna shell out for a Japanese luxury car?", he said. Well, he couldn't have been more wrong, and it even made the German car makers step up their game. Funny how things change.
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I apologize - I don't know how I could have made the video any more simple to understand.

If you think this is simply about "made in China", you completely missed the entire point - and the additional posts here that helped explain it to those who missed the point.
 
these days, I really don't care where stuff is made as long as there is quality in the product and it meets my needs and the warranty for that product is supported by a valid dealer network.
 
CPP said:
these days, I really don't care where stuff is made as long as there is quality in the product and it meets my needs and the warranty for that product is supported by a valid dealer network.
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Agreed. And that a company is truthful about where it is made. When companies start trying to confuse and play word games, it raises all sorts of issues and concerns.
 
MichaelsMinute said:
I apologize - I don't know how I could have made the video any more simple to understand.

If you think this is simply about "made in China", you completely missed the entire point - and the additional posts here that helped explain it to those who missed the point.
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Actually, I did not bother watching the video; my apologies.

My comment came from reading your diatribes in this thread. I can see that behind the apparent shield of 'honesty' or 'transparency', there is a not so veiled assumption that if the speakers are "Made in China" they obviously cannot be as good as those made in the UK.

The location where a product is manufactured is not representative of the quality of the product. There are many reliable products made in the UK and others that are not; this also applies to products made in China. What really matters is that the manufacturer maintain strict quality control regardless where the product is made and that it stands behind its products.
 
nicoff said:
Actually, I did not bother watching the video; my apologies.

My comment came from reading your diatribes in this thread. I can see that behind the apparent shield of 'honesty' or 'transparency', there is a not so veiled assumption that if the speakers are "Made in China" they obviously cannot be as good as those made in the UK.

The location where a product is manufactured is not representative of the quality of the product. There are many reliable products made in the UK and others that are not; this also applies to products made in China. What really matters is that the manufacturer maintain strict quality control regardless where the product is made and that it stands behind its products.
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Agreed. Per my comments in post #11, Quality is the result of HOW products are designed, engineered and manufactured, not WHERE. Speaker performance' audio quality comes down to physics mediating a transfer function, and neither physics nor transfer functions are "geographically constrained". They work the same everywhere.

I'll just add that the one country that was able to completely screw up manufacturing a Honda automobile was the U.K., with the Sterling Automobiles' Sterling 825/827, "pseudo-Honda", which was one of the worst cars in history.
 
nicoff said:
Actually, I did not bother watching the video; my apologies.

My comment came from reading your diatribes in this thread. I can see that behind the apparent shield of 'honesty' or 'transparency', there is a not so veiled assumption that if the speakers are "Made in China" they obviously cannot be as good as those made in the UK.

The location where a product is manufactured is not representative of the quality of the product. There are many reliable products made in the UK and others that are not; this also applies to products made in China. What really matters is that the manufacturer maintain strict quality control regardless where the product is made and that it stands behind its products.
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Ah yes, personal attacks and playing the race card from someone who didn't even watch the video. How so predictable and laughable.

Sorry Nicoff, I'm not going to engage stupid any longer on the forum so I'm going to ignore you. Have fun with yourself. #Blocked.
 
Puma Cat said:
Agreed. Per my comments in post #11, Quality is the result of HOW products are designed, engineered and manufactured, not WHERE. Speaker performance' audio quality comes down to physics mediating a transfer function, and neither physics nor transfer functions are "geographically constrained". They work the same everywhere.

I'll just add that the one country that was able to completely screw up manufacturing a Honda automobile was the U.K., with the Sterling Automobiles' Sterling 825/827, "pseudo-Honda", which was one of the worst cars in history.
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FYI we're talking about Tannoy not Honda.

The dealers, distributors and ex-emplyoees at Tannoy seem to disagree with you on this Stephen.
 
The OP is just doing click baits. He wants folks to click and watch his video.
I wonder how many sites he has been kicked out from. :rolleyes:
 
Why is the OP being attacked like this? He raised a very valid concern, he should be applauded, not condemned.

I personally do care where my money goes, many dont and thats fine. Especially when its tens of thousands of my dollars for products I simply dont need.
 
A huge "Thank You" to everyone who has messaged me congratulations on the seismic waves this video caused. It's exciting to see how many of you really followed this closely and had the same issues/concerns. I honestly had no idea the issue was as large as it turned out to be.

It's exciting to see finally getting movement after 7 years of "cloak and dagger". Hopefully they follow through on their promise of transparency to the benefit of the consumers.

I'm glad as an almost-consumer I was able to uncover what I did to keep me from making a purchase decision that would not have been right for me.

I hope Tannoy is able to make this once-great company great again.

Thanks again everyone!
 
So Michael, what exactly did you learn?

I gotta be honest, you stirred the pot hard and if you dont actually share what youve discovered then Ill have to agree with some of the others that you were just doing this for the attention and not actually hoping to accomplish anything
 
dznutz said:
So Michael, what exactly did you learn?

I gotta be honest, you stirred the pot hard and if you dont actually share what youve discovered then Ill have to agree with some of the others that you were just doing this for the attention and not actually hoping to accomplish anything
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Thankfully, I really don't care what the AudioShark "Hateful 8" think. In fact, based on the dozens of PM I've received, the entire forum seems pretty united in that same belief that the small handful of these people have hijacked the entire forum from normal enjoyable discussions of audio to simply a forum to be nasty. It seems the forum members are wise to you guys.

The last thing in my life I strive for is attention from is a small group of angry, miserable forum trouble makers - like those not smart enough to know the difference between debt and deficit (per other post).

There is so much more to life than trying to explain what real click bait is (and yet somehow these "victims" admit to continually falling for the same supposed evil click bait scheme they claim to despise rather than being smart enough to ignore it - proof they just want to create drama for no reason and be professional victims).

If after everything that has been stated re: Tannoy you still don't understand (or choose not to understand is my guess), me saying it again isn't going to help you.

Hopefully the Audio Shark "Hateful 8" can make some room in their souls to remember it's Christmas time. But I doubt it. I feel so sorry for them going through life like that.

Merry Christmas!
 
It is amazing how thin skinned people can behave when challenged on their assumptions, theories, and beliefs. Beliefs aren’t facts and opinions always have bias. Challenging the intelligence and opinions of others with school yard names is an example of small minds saying a lot without saying much of anything of value.
 
dznutz said:
So Michael, what exactly did you learn?

I gotta be honest, you stirred the pot hard and if you dont actually share what youve discovered then Ill have to agree with some of the others that you were just doing this for the attention and not actually hoping to accomplish anything
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Have to agree - this thread has just descended into his own self-congratulations interspersed with childish back-and-forths. You don't have to engage EVERY TIME. I don't even care if Tannoy is made in China anymore. Maybe they do a great job there, and Puma Cat probably was right in his original comment.
 
I guess Ill ask again... what have you discovered on this topic? Where are Tannoy Prestige speakers built and what is your source for that information?
 
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