Why I Stopped Using Roon

In my EcoSystem, JPlay has worked out really well.
Anyone else given it a try?

Years ago I used it and I moved on to more advanced programs and haven't looked back since.
 
I liked Foobar2000 more than JRiver, a long time ago. I was using Foobar2000 and tried several other music playback systems. Bit perfect playback, with ASIO was as good as it got playback wise. Audirvana, at the time, only ran on the Mac (which I did not use back then) was very well considered. Things opened up with the 2 computer systems. One computer for library and possible EQ, and one for playback. The microRendu was a revelation. I jumped on Roon when it came out. I have tried a few others, but end up back at Roon.
 
John

If you're referring to JPlay for IOS rather than JPlay Femto then I agree with you. I have been using it for 2 years.
 
mep and Jack-

Yes, I am speaking of JPlay for IOS. I had forgotten about Fernto that I believe is similar in purpose to something like JRiver, Audivana etc for Windows machines.

JPlay for IOS (also works with Apple Silicon "M" series) acts as a remote. No core necessary Just a NAS running Minimserver. works great.

For those with an interest:

jplay.app

John
 
To me, frequent Roon updates (they roll sth on avg. once a month) is one of the biggest advantages of Roon.

When you get a streamer, the software gets older and older by the day, and after 4-5 years half of the features don't work anymore - not unlike when you buy a "smart" TV. This is how iRadio on my Naim streamer just stopped working.

Not to mention, no bugs are beeing ironed out and no new features added...

If you don't like to update, you can always click on skip.

Roon have just recently added the Opra (custom correction curves for hundreds if not thousands of headphones) and I'm over the moon with this update. My Stax Omega SR-009s have never sounded so good.
 
Roon doesn't help you discover new music? Really? I'm glad you got off the high fidelity train and jumped on the low fidelity bus and that makes you happy.

You are living proof that not everyone who joins high end audio forums actually cares about high fidelity.

I didn’t stop caring about fidelity—I just stopped worshipping it. High-end audio forums are full of people who seem to have forgotten why they got into this in the first place.

Alan Parsons said it best: “Audiophiles don't use their equipment to listen to your music. Audiophiles use your music to listen to their equipment.” That mindset turns music into a test signal and turns listening into a gear obsession. Some folks treat overpriced cables and exotic components like they’re holy relics, as if that’s the same thing as actually enjoying music.

I feel lucky to have seen through the smoke. The music matters more than the machinery.
 
To me, frequent Roon updates (they roll sth on avg. once a month) is one of the biggest advantages of Roon.

When you get a streamer, the software gets older and older by the day, and after 4-5 years half of the features don't work anymore - not unlike when you buy a "smart" TV. This is how iRadio on my Naim streamer just stopped working.

Not to mention, no bugs are beeing ironed out and no new features added...

If you don't like to update, you can always click on skip.

Roon have just recently added the Opra (custom correction curves for hundreds if not thousands of headphones) and I'm over the moon with this update. My Stax Omega SR-009s have never sounded so good.
The Aurender software is regularly updated so this is not correct at all, it depends on the manufacturer. Both the ACS10 and the N20 can act as Roon end point, in fact all new Aurenders can. However the Aurender Conductor app has superior sound quality compared to Roon and clearly heard through my MSB Reference DAC
 
I gave up on Roon years ago. I use Qobuz and Spotify directly. Roon is a great software package but isn't necessary to enjoy one's music. JRiver is still king when it comes to managing my music database - effortlessly handles all that I throw at it. Even when I had Roon, I found JRiver better at editing and cleaning up album information on my server.

I also use playlists extensively and found that the Spotify algorithm excels in recommending music that matches my taste (which it picks up from my playlist history). Qobuz sounds great and is best for when I am in a mood to listen to an album. But it has limitations when you try to use it outside of that. Spotify Connect effortlessly keeps playing my music when I leave my home, step into my car, walk into my office etc. All seamless and very enjoyable.

I also find that the underlying database is better with Spotify. Qobuz has most of the classics but once you veer off into finding some lesser known artists or lesser known albums Spotify's speed and database is superior.

Local file playback is still my choice for critical listening. Qobuz is the reference when streaming. Spotify is what I use for casual listening and music discovery. Horses for courses ...


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All I can think is that some posters here must be desperate to find "new" music to listen to, rather than enjoying the music itself. For me at least, listening to the music I like at the best sound quality available to me is what it is all about (and has been for the past several decades); I find it so much easier to connect to the music emotionally with better sound quality. YMMV.
 
We all have various parts of the hobby that we enjoy. There is no ‘right’ answer.

Exploring and finding new music is one of them for me.

For the past few years, I have been exploring Bruckner, Sibelius and Elgar. Qobuz and ROON have made that easier. It has also lead to me purchasing a number of Japanese SHM SACD releases.
 
I gave up on Roon years ago. I use Qobuz and Spotify directly. Roon is a great software package but isn't necessary to enjoy one's music. JRiver is still king when it comes to managing my music database - effortlessly handles all that I throw at it. Even when I had Roon, I found JRiver better at editing and cleaning up album information on my server.

I also use playlists extensively and found that the Spotify algorithm excels in recommending music that matches my taste (which it picks up from my playlist history). Qobuz sounds great and is best for when I am in a mood to listen to an album. But it has limitations when you try to use it outside of that. Spotify Connect effortlessly keeps playing my music when I leave my home, step into my car, walk into my office etc. All seamless and very enjoyable.

I also find that the underlying database is better with Spotify. Qobuz has most of the classics but once you veer off into finding some lesser known artists or lesser known albums Spotify's speed and database is superior.

Local file playback is still my choice for critical listening. Qobuz is the reference when streaming. Spotify is what I use for casual listening and music discovery. Horses for courses ...


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I gave up on JRiver years ago. To me, Roon has much better library management, it is infinitely easier to use and setup.

It also offers seamless integration with Tidal / Quobuz - sth Jriver will probably never offer.

I'm not even mentioning super easy headphones correction, room correction, DSD upsampling etc.
 
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