Where can I find the provenance of an album?

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Where can I find the provenance of a recording?

For example, if I want to download the 1970 Crosby Stills Nash & Young Deja Vu album in 24/192, it appears (from my research) that these tapes were converted to digital only once in 1994. So, in 1994, they were likely converted at 16/44 using a not-so-state of the art today A2D converter. A A2D which has likely found it's way into the junkyard by now.

So, if I buy the 24/192 version, I am simply getting the 16/44 version that someone has upsampled to 24/192 and is now charging more than the CD (a few dollars used), more than the 24/96 version ($17) and wants a whopping $24 for an upsample of an upsample?

IMO - this is very disingenuous. If the tapes were converted digitally to 24/192, I'm happy to pay the $24. If the tapes were converted digitally to 24/96 and then the 24/96 was upsampled to 24/192, it's somewhat of a rip off. If the tapes were converted digitally to 16/44 and then upsampled to 24/96 and 24/192, then it's a big rip off.

Not having proper access to the provenance of the version we are buying is very disingenuous IMO.

Maybe I will just stick with the original vinyl pressing I paid a few dollars for. At least I know where that came from.
 
Some info I found. The album has been issued on compact disc three times: mastered by Barry Diament at Atlantic Studios in the mid-1980s;[SUP][6][/SUP] remastered by Joe Gastwirt at Ocean View Digital and reissued on August 16, 1994; reissued again by Rhino Records as an expanded edition using the HDCD process on January 24, 2006. On December 6, 2011, a gold compact disc edition of the album was released on the Audio Fidelity label.

I've heard that the Joe Gastwirt and the Barry Diament versions are the best "redo's.

the 24/192 version some DR facts http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/106307

I'll just stick to the original LP with fake leather cover and all.
 
I totally agree Mike

I was hoping HDTracks would take the lead on this issue and give all the history on their upsampled offerings...Alas they do not.
Why? Because if they did you'd see most of the upsampled stuff is a rip-off and no one would pay for them.
 
Mike said:
Where can I find the provenance of a recording?

For example, if I want to download the 1970 Crosby Stills Nash & Young Deja Vu album in 24/192, it appears (from my research) that these tapes were converted to digital only once in 1994. So, in 1994, they were likely converted at 16/44 using a not-so-state of the art today A2D converter. A A2D which has likely found it's way into the junkyard by now.

So, if I buy the 24/192 version, I am simply getting the 16/44 version that someone has upsampled to 24/192 and is now charging more than the CD (a few dollars used), more than the 24/96 version ($17) and wants a whopping $24 for an upsample of an upsample?

IMO - this is very disingenuous. If the tapes were converted digitally to 24/192, I'm happy to pay the $24. If the tapes were converted digitally to 24/96 and then the 24/96 was upsampled to 24/192, it's somewhat of a rip off. If the tapes were converted digitally to 16/44 and then upsampled to 24/96 and 24/192, then it's a big rip off.

Not having proper access to the provenance of the version we are buying is very disingenuous IMO.

Maybe I will just stick with the original vinyl pressing I paid a few dollars for. At least I know where that came from.
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Greetings Mike! If you haven't used this search try it, pretty informative. Enter the album info and voila!
Cheers,
Chester

http://dr.loudness-war.info


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