What Comes First????

2FarGone said:
Realistically, I doubt that most people have the space, financial resources, or perhaps most importantly, a sufficiently understanding spouse to create multiple quality systems for different types of music. We all have to make compromises according to those characteristics we value most highly. Such is life.
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That may be true for some. A good speaker should be able to play any genre. I have really met no one who went into the hobby looking to build a system for each type of music they enjoy.

I have to admit if room and money I would probably have more than one system based on different presentation.
 
Is this even a legit question? Speakers seems to be the answer of the majority but I still feel it's a flawed approach if really the narrow approach.

For example, I do my search and really want Magico. Then I go on the hunt for electronics to drive them but I want tubes only tubes. There may be a tube amp to drive them but choice will be narrow in my opinion and I personally wouldn't even use tubes with those speakers.

I suggest no matter what you say other factors of the system have to at least be in the back of your mind.
Yes, there are good entry level electronics these days but does that mean to never go further? Sticking with Magico, who spends that type of money just to drive them with a Wiim? The Wiim will sound it's best but those Magico NEVER will.

Sticking with these old beliefs and parroted mantra is what keep so many on the merry-go-round. You follow without logic and find you've made a mistake in the real world application.
 
My current system breaks down into the following $ percentages, not that I planned it that way. It's just what it is.

CD transport & DAC: 20%
Integrated amp: 20%
Speakers & subs: 35%
wires: 25%

I'm probably a little heavy on the wires but I liked them. They'll stay while I make upgrades to the rest in the future.
 
I was reading this review of a Wilson speaker and wanted to share something that rang to what I'm talking about;
Let us discuss setup and equipment matching a bit before we turn to the SabrinaX’s sonic attributes. The speaker has an 87dB sensitivity and a 4-ohm nominal impedance, with a minimum of 2.6 ohms. My Naim Uniti Star all-in-one (70Wpc into 8 ohms, not specified but probably around 110Wpc into 4 ohms) ran the SabrinaX without issue. From a power standpoint, the Wilsons never sounded starved or fell apart, even at loud listening levels. Yet, when I shifted to the Dartzeel CTH-8550 mk2 integrated (what a combo!), with its 200Wpc into 8 ohms and 330Wpc into 4 ohms, the speakers came alive! As much as the quality of the Dartzeel’s sonics obviously had to do with that, the SabrinaX’s thrived on the added power and control. Needless to say, the SabrinaX exploded with life and dynamics when driven by my reference Pilium Achilles stereo amp with its 600Wpc into 4 ohms. My point is simply that the SabrinaX can certainly provide the goods if matched to an affordable mid-power integrated. But to really let it show what it can do, you will need to feed it with higher-power and -quality equipment upstream; it will scale up with mesmerizing results.

I believe this was written in 2021 and the price of the speakers about $18,900.00. I didn't look up the price of the individual amps but I think you get what I mean.

It's just foolish to spend the majority of your budget on speakers without the proper gear to push them or make them shine. And this is an example of a reasonably priced speaker that could easily benefit from more expensive electronics. Well, I suppose "reasonably" is subjective, LOL
 
Dizzie said:
SPEAKERS! Speakers must work for the room and the listener's musical preferences and tastes. Would you choose the same speakers for classical and heavy metal? Would you put Wilson Maxx or Magico M9 speakers in a bedroom? The only component in my system that would make the most dramatic change at this point would be speakers, not my DAC, amps, pre or any wire.

I have Sound Labs. Before that, Quad preceded by Apogee and Dalquist DQ-10s. If I had switched any of those speakers for music coffins (AKA box speakers) that would have changed my experience much more than switching Krell for Pass Labs.

As the anchor for my system, Sound Labs have guided all the electronics and wires that I now have or will have in the future.
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If you can still afford a bedroom after the M9 i would go for it than get a lessor model

:)
 
JDC said:
My current system breaks down into the following $ percentages, not that I planned it that way. It's just what it is.

CD transport & DAC: 20%
Integrated amp: 20%
Speakers & subs: 35%
wires: 25%

I'm probably a little heavy on the wires but I liked them. They'll stay while I make upgrades to the rest in the future.
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Too low on speakers …!
 
nicoff said:
🤣 you will be amazed how many audiophiles claim that they can hear them fuses!
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We got a whole bunch of the so called top fuses. We did a blind shootout (sleeping masks). Nobody could tell a damn thing. In the end, we concluded that scammers (yeah, I said it) like QSA get a fuse from Home Depot and a sticker machine. Purple, red, whatever. There was NO difference in our blind shootout. That’s why I don’t carry any fuse products. Plus, I’m not even sure if it’s the best thing to do given warranties of the gear.
 
Mike said:
We got a whole bunch of the so called top fuses. We did a blind shootout (sleeping masks). Nobody could tell a damn thing. In the end, we concluded that scammers (yeah, I said it) like QSA get a fuse from Home Depot and a sticker machine. Purple, red, whatever. There was NO difference in our blind shootout. That’s why I don’t carry any fuse products. Plus, I’m not even sure if it’s the best thing to do given warranties of the gear.
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agreed
 
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