What amp on Harbeth speakers ?

I just bought a pass x250.5 to compare it my kharma monos. Going now to pick it up.... can't stop swopping. ....;)

Kharmas deliver 150 on 4 ohm and the Pass 500....;)
Wil see what the kharma db7 does on a passx 250.

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Here it is. New in the gear swappers paradise.

Let's see how this giant does against the little kharma mono amps...

I have to say that the kharmas are so musical that I didn't see why I should change gears.
But than I could not sleep thinking that it could be sounding better. ;)

So what do u do when it itches?

You itch... lol


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I have not seen a lot of naim being paired with harbeth.

Ive heard leben tubes that did verry wel with harbeths.


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Naim and harbeth are like butter and toast. what Joe said, I had a supernait driving HL5s beautifully. it wont break the bank and it fits on one shelf (no separates).
 
In that case I think they dont like butter and toast here in Holland. Lol


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Naim , Croft , Sugden and LFD are super with Harbeth. Currently I have a LFD and leave it on 24/7 - loving that combo .
 
mazzialk said:
Here it is. New in the gear swappers paradise.

Let's see how this giant does against the little kharma mono amps...

I have to say that the kharmas are so musical that I didn't see why I should change gears.
But than I could not sleep thinking that it could be sounding better. ;)

So what do u do when it itches?

You itch... lol


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Wow!

That's a beast!

Please post your impressions.
 
kkfan said:
Wow!

That's a beast!

Please post your impressions.
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Hi KKFAN
Here comes the first listening impression.

I did a listening session yesterday and the PASS was not a match in my room with my system.

I found the Pass a bit glary compared to the kharma monos in my system.

With the kharma u get an unbelievable transparancy that make things more real without getting irritating or harsh on the ears after an extensive listening session.

The kharmas just made a mutch better match I think with the rest of the stuff.

It's just wauww listening with the kharmas in place. Every note ,every resonating strings, every voice just makes u tap your feet and move your head.

U actually forget every thing and listen to music.

The Pass in my system just didn't achieve that yesterday.


than there is the low frequenties were the Pass in his first 15 w of klass A just is not a match for the kharmas. Klass A design does not have the grip and speed like the kharmas do with their CRAZY dampingfactor of over 400.

The speed of base Lines were faster en clearest with the kharmas and the s3nce of decay of echo's were far better hearable.

With the Pass my room got choked with the low frequenties when i crancked up the volume .With the kharmas the room didn't resonate that much and everything stayed clear , fast and enjoyable.

The Pass also had a bit of kick in the mid section as voices tended to get bigger and less natural.
Also the sense of decay and micro detail was less apearant with the Pass.

The stage was ok with the Pass but the placement of everything was far better and more pinpoint with the kharmas.

I have had a few pass gear and it never got me to say wauwww.
The only Pass I had a good match with was the ALEPH OS AND ML38S with the kharma s7s speakers.

I had the hope this baby would make me happier ,but one again im sad en verry happy at the same time.

Sad that this beautifull machine doesn't get his plays in my rack because I find the Pass to be much more beautifull that the little kharmas.

Happy that the little kharmas are as good as it gets.

I have had a ton of stuff and all have passed and the kharmas are stil here at my home.

Even the Lamm ml1 /ml2/ m1 are history but I just could not Let go of this little fu..ers.

The KHARMA MP150 s are absolutley one of the best AMPS I HAVE HAD.

U have to hear them with a good tube amp. Than u get the best of both worlds.


Sorry for the spelling fault guys. My english is far from perfect. ;)
 
mazzialk said:
Hi KKFAN
Here comes the first listening impression.

I did a listening session yesterday and the PASS was not a match in my room with my system.

I found the Pass a bit glary compared to the kharma monos in my system.

With the kharma u get an unbelievable transparancy that make things more real without getting irritating or harsh on the ears after an extensive listening session.

The kharmas just made a mutch better match I think with the rest of the stuff.

It's just wauww listening with the kharmas in place. Every note ,every resonating strings, every voice just makes u tap your feet and move your head.

U actually forget every thing and listen to music.

The Pass in my system just didn't achieve that yesterday.


than there is the low frequenties were the Pass in his first 15 w of klass A just is not a match for the kharmas. Klass A design does not have the grip and speed like the kharmas do with their CRAZY dampingfactor of over 400.

The speed of base Lines were faster en clearest with the kharmas and the s3nce of decay of echo's were far better hearable.

With the Pass my room got choked with the low frequenties when i crancked up the volume .With the kharmas the room didn't resonate that much and everything stayed clear , fast and enjoyable.

The Pass also had a bit of kick in the mid section as voices tended to get bigger and less natural.
Also the sense of decay and micro detail was less apearant with the Pass.

The stage was ok with the Pass but the placement of everything was far better and more pinpoint with the kharmas.

I have had a few pass gear and it never got me to say wauwww.
The only Pass I had a good match with was the ALEPH OS AND ML38S with the kharma s7s speakers.

I had the hope this baby would make me happier ,but one again im sad en verry happy at the same time.

Sad that this beautifull machine doesn't get his plays in my rack because I find the Pass to be much more beautifull that the little kharmas.

Happy that the little kharmas are as good as it gets.

I have had a ton of stuff and all have passed and the kharmas are stil here at my home.

Even the Lamm ml1 /ml2/ m1 are history but I just could not Let go of this little fu..ers.

The KHARMA MP150 s are absolutley one of the best AMPS I HAVE HAD.

U have to hear them with a good tube amp. Than u get the best of both worlds.


Sorry for the spelling fault guys. My english is far from perfect. ;)
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Thanks a lot for the in-depth impressions! [emoji4]
 
"The KHARMA MP150 s are absolutley one of the best AMPS I HAVE HAD."

Hi mazzialk,

Now you excited my interest in these amps. I'll have to check them out as I've never heard of them. Thank you.


 
joeinid said:
"The KHARMA MP150 s are absolutley one of the best AMPS I HAVE HAD."

Hi mazzialk,

Now you excited my interest in these amps. I'll have to check them out as I've never heard of them. Thank you.
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I think u wil love the sound but haten the looks.
That was for me the only part I didn't like.
They look cheaper than they are and do not have the feeling (weight and mesurements)of an high end product.
That is were kharma went wrong when making these mini amps.

They should have put it in a nice bigger elegant box.;)
Ive had them beside every amp I have ever had in the years as they were one of the first "high end" amps i bought .

I compared all the amps ive had to the kharmas and I found the kharmas Being the most honest /fast /clear and smooth sounding.

Ofcourse there was also the AIRTIGHT ATM2 AND THE LAMM M1 that did a Wonderful job . But comparing price to performance ratio , the kharmas win every time.;)

The kharmas absolutley show what u put in front of it.

They absolutley do what a good amp should do.
Be fast, have power and deliver clear sound open sound with huge dynamics. U can than tune your sound by having a preamp of choice.

Even with my shl5 that I did a shoots out with a coupled of audio friends , every one prefererd the kharma mp150 paired with the audionote m3 .
The mp150 en m3 had the most envolving sound between 4 amps en 3 preamp that I was comparing and pairing with the shl5.
 
interesting.

'Class D' does have advantages in the deep bass in terms of linearity. the issues have always been image density in the mids and the top end naturalness and extended listening fatigue. I'm guessing avoiding the SMPS seems to have solved that for these amps.

I've always been a Kharma fan.
 
Mike Lavigne said:
interesting.

'Class D' does have advantages in the deep bass in terms of linearity. the issues have always been image density in the mids and the top end naturalness and extended listening fatigue. I'm guessing avoiding the SMPS seems to have solved that for these amps.

I've always been a Kharma fan.
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Hi Mike

To tel u the truth I never was a fan of D amps.(til I got the kharmas to test)
Thats one of the reasons I kept changing amps because I always though that D is inferior to klaas A/AB amps.
But in the years I tried to convince myself that the kharma mp150 was inferior I found myself getting rid of one amp after the other and keeping the kharma.

Ofcourse I have had a few pre amps that did not match wel with the kharmas. And suprisingley the kharma P150 pre was one of those amps that was just to fatique to listen to for my taste paired with the monos.


I tried a few speakers to see if I can make the combi of kharma pre and amp work together (also tried the shl5) and even with the shl5 the kharma pre drove me turning the volume down at some moments because it pushed hard on some notes louder than other notes.

U can call me a tube head case I love the liquidity of tube but with the kharma monos and an good tube pre I have never missed Airtight Atm 2 I had.

Let me make it clear ,the ATM2 was one of the best tube amps I have ever had.
That baby could rock and had balls.

Cheers maz
 
Zero said:
Let's face it.... Most Hi-Fi stuff looks ridiculous.

- BBC speakers look like shoeboxes
- Most Wilson Audio speakers look like high-end trash compactors.
- Avantgardes are straight out of Dr. Suess.
- Kharmas and Rosso Fiorentinos look like high-end coffins.
- Martin Logan panels look like cheese graders.
- Maggies look like an ugly canvas.
- Magico speakers look like high-end, painted telephone poles.
- Living Voice speakers look like tissue boxes.

The list goes on..
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LMAO
 
Hey guys,

Im somewhat active on other forums but I don’t think ive ever posted here before...

Since we’ve moved and now have a much larger living/audio room, I am thinking about a pair of Harbeth 40.2’s and am curious how my gear will fair with them...
I have a Wells Audio Innamorata Signature amp (http://www.wellsaudio.com/innamorata-signature/)
and have just purchased and am running-in a Lampizator Atlantic w/ volume control. I also have a Vinnie Rossi LIO w/ DHT to use as preamp if I like it better than Lampi straight to the amp...

We know that the LIO has a special synergy with Harbeth but my Wells amp out performs the internal LIO amp, so the LIO had been purchased for preamp only... now with the Atlantic, I have the option to run the Lampi straight to amp OR with the LIO as pre...

So this system could go a couple diferent direction but I’d love to hear that the amp would be a good match for the 40.2’s...

Any thoughts on these combination?

thanks
Jason
 
Mike Lavigne said:
interesting.

'Class D' does have advantages in the deep bass in terms of linearity. the issues have always been image density in the mids and the top end naturalness and extended listening fatigue. I'm guessing avoiding the SMPS seems to have solved that for these amps.

I've always been a Kharma fan.
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Never noticed this Mike , always Prefered A/AB amplfiers low Bass over Class-D.


Look at a 25hz squarewave on a Class-D amp and you will see there's no way its more linear at Low frequency , they fail sonically to me at the freq extremes , Lows and Highs and best for them is in the middle..

This has been my experiences with Class-D ....


Regards
 
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