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http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/viewpoint/0716/Why_Do_WAV_And_FLAC_Files_Sound_Different.htm
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WAV vs FLAC
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Vincent Kars
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Looks like those guys are even to ignorant to do a binary comparison.
still-one
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I quickly perused the article, interesting. In the past I had the option I would save files in WAV format and thought I preferred it to FLAC. After a period I found if there was a difference it was so small that even if I could identify which was which in repeated A/B comparisons, I could not tell which was playing if I walked into the room. Bottom line FLAC is good enough for me.
the professor
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Pretty interesting
madfloyd
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Gotta wonder if these guys work for Western Digital or some other hard drive company.
I find it very hard to believe.
I find it very hard to believe.
The authors of the linked article are the same pseudo-scientists who wrote two multi-part (and thoroughly discredited; Stereophile wouldn't publish them although they were offered to it first) articles in The Abaolute Sound. Bottom line; it's just their opinion, nothing scientific about it.
Audioseduction
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Both formats can sound very good! That's all that matters in my book! 
AJ Soundfield
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I can't tell whether this is a prank or serious.
Based on my extensive email correspondence with Chuck Zellig I can assure you that he is both completely serious and completely ignorant of scientific method and study design.
Mack
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OUCHHHH, that's going to leave a large mark!
AJ Soundfield
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Removing metadata caused spatial rendering positions to "rise" 50 inches???
Sounds like a really bad LSD trip. WTH
cheers,
AJ
Well I have had this happen to me. A while,back I was trying other formats for ripped sacds
since I keep,things in ISO format and mostly play them in dsd . But since there is persistence in upsampling posts. I keep trying new ways that some post. I never believed the in file format honestly. But I do own a few tracks that are definitely better in wav. It's almost noise that hits my brain in Flac non compressed or compressed. Now weather it's the software used to extract it or it's the playback format I do not know. If I can remember I'll,post some. Also as some use tidal as I do some tracks are water marked. Has anyone here ever tried the software that's trains us to hear it more. It's another odd fact in audio. Sometime at a glance is bull until you do it for while and then it's obvious . Of course the software makes it easy it showing you before and after . But there is also test tracks and with headphones it's easy speakers took me a about 30 mins or so to hear constisently . It also could be DAC related as well. As I used to own a Psaudio DS dsd and did a post on Flac and wav . Now keep this in mind Nearly all,of my PCM is Flac simple become of meta data being there better
since I keep,things in ISO format and mostly play them in dsd . But since there is persistence in upsampling posts. I keep trying new ways that some post. I never believed the in file format honestly. But I do own a few tracks that are definitely better in wav. It's almost noise that hits my brain in Flac non compressed or compressed. Now weather it's the software used to extract it or it's the playback format I do not know. If I can remember I'll,post some. Also as some use tidal as I do some tracks are water marked. Has anyone here ever tried the software that's trains us to hear it more. It's another odd fact in audio. Sometime at a glance is bull until you do it for while and then it's obvious . Of course the software makes it easy it showing you before and after . But there is also test tracks and with headphones it's easy speakers took me a about 30 mins or so to hear constisently . It also could be DAC related as well. As I used to own a Psaudio DS dsd and did a post on Flac and wav . Now keep this in mind Nearly all,of my PCM is Flac simple become of meta data being there better
madfloyd
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What software teaches you to hear watermarks?
Here is an example of "watermark distortion" on Tidal. Barber's "Adagio for Strings"
tidal.com/track/8334755
This is a Decca recording and is sourced from UMG. Deutsche Grammophone is also sourced from UMG and also has many examples of watermark distortion.
-It's a fluttering of certain portions of the high frequencies.
-I find the distortion more apparent on good headphones (rather than speakers), but you can can say that for almost any type of recording-chain distortion.
-I find it either more apparent or more prevalent with classical music.
If this track sounds ok to you, then these links will demo the difference between a normal recording and one that has been "watermarked". Then it should be more apparent.
http://www.mattmontag.com/music/univ...ible-watermark
http://mattmontag.com/audio-listening-test
Hope it helps
tidal.com/track/8334755
This is a Decca recording and is sourced from UMG. Deutsche Grammophone is also sourced from UMG and also has many examples of watermark distortion.
-It's a fluttering of certain portions of the high frequencies.
-I find the distortion more apparent on good headphones (rather than speakers), but you can can say that for almost any type of recording-chain distortion.
-I find it either more apparent or more prevalent with classical music.
If this track sounds ok to you, then these links will demo the difference between a normal recording and one that has been "watermarked". Then it should be more apparent.
http://www.mattmontag.com/music/univ...ible-watermark
http://mattmontag.com/audio-listening-test
Hope it helps
madfloyd
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Thanks, Al, that was very informative.