Vitus SCD-025 inbound!

Diasoft said:
Has anyone compared the SCD-025 Mk2 to the RCD-101 or the PS Audio DirectStream an can share his/her thoughts? I bought the SIA-025 last week and need an adequate player.

Gauder Akustik RC 7 MK II / HGP Fuga ST / Infinity 9.2i / Infinity 9a
Vitus Audio SIA-025 / ASR Emitter II HD Akku / ASR Emitter II plus
Wadia 830 / Oppo 105 tuned by Gert Volk Audio / Simon Yorke S9 / Amazon1 + SME V
Omtec Antares Phono Pre
Magnan, Acoustic Zen + Aural Symphonics Cable
Shun Mook
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I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the Vitus amp Versus the ASR Emitter 2...when you get the opportunity...
 
Diasoft said:
Has anyone compared the SCD-025 Mk2 to the RCD-101 or the PS Audio DirectStream an can share his/her thoughts? I bought the SIA-025 last week and need an adequate player.
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I'm familiar with both the RCD-101 and SCD-025 Mk2, though I haven't done a sbs comparison. The RCD-101 has the essential Vitus DNA of sounding organic, analogue-like and non-fatiguing, though hands down the SCD-025 Mk2 is more fluid, resolving and musical compared to the RCD-101. I would say it is also more analogue-like, especially so when paired with the SIA-025. No surprise there really since the SCD-025 Mk2 was "made for" the SIA-025. I don't think PS Audio is in the same league, though to be fair I haven't heard their gear.
 
Ok, I am convinced, I ordered an SCD-025 Mk2.



Gauder Akustik RC 7 MK II / HGP Fuga ST / Infinity 9.2i / Infinity 9a
Vitus Audio SIA-025 / ASR Emitter II HD Akku / ASR Emitter II plus
Wadia 830 / Oppo 105 tuned by Gert Volk Audio / Simon Yorke S9 / Amazon1 + SME V
Omtec Antares Phono Pre
Magnan, Acoustic Zen + Aural Symphonics Cable
Shun Mook
 
Diasoft said:
Ok, I am convinced, I ordered an SCD-025 Mk2.
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Great choice Diasoft, especially for synergy with your SIA-025 & Gauder RC-7 MkII's :thumbsup:. Give it time to play in. Hans Ole advised me a minimum of 200hrs to be mostly run in.

Looking forward to your first impressions, then further reflections when your new toy is fully run in!
 
Wow! Congrats. Do you guys know where Vitus gets their transports for the SCD-025? I've asked Hans and I'm waiting on a response.


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Mike said:
Wow! Congrats. Do you guys know where Vitus gets their transports for the SCD-025? I've asked Hans and I'm waiting on a response.


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That player uses a heavily modified Phillips Pro 2LF transport. Hans provided this insight in High Fidelity magazine's review of the SCD-025 Mk2, which he also confirmed in my discussions with him..

Do you believe in Compact Disc format still? What is its the future?
No – its dead – but there are many customers who have good collections of discs and who will continue to support it for as long as they possible can – and so we try our best to support them. Main issue is that the quality of the drives that are available is getting worse and worse, and for that reason many start to use PC cd-r drives. We have enough Philips pro drives for the time being to last production and service for the time being – and we will continue to supply SCD-025's for as long as we can still keeping a reasonable stock for repairs.
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Aren't you afraid of lack Philips' transports on the market?
Yes and no – we have plenty for now :)
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Well, the SCD 025 is here and I love it. Now I need a great XLR cable. I have Magnan Vi, Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II and Aural Symphonics chronos b2. The Aural is the best cable. It is very airy but also thin. I would like more warmth and more bass.

Gauder Akustik RC 7 Mk2 / HGP Fuga ST / Infinity 9.2i / Infinity 9a
Vitus Audio SIA-025 Mk2 / ASR Emitter II HD Akku / ASR Emitter II plus
Vitus Audio SCD-025 Mk2 / Wadia 830 / Oppo 105 tuned by Gert Volk Audio / Simon Yorke S9 / Amazon1 + SME V
Omtec Antares Phono Pre
Magnan, Acoustic Zen + Aural Symphonics Cable
Shun Mook Diamond Resonators
 
Congratulations Diasoft & great choice! :thumbsup: Remember your SCD-025 Mk2 will need about 300hrs to be fully run in. If you're looking for a warm sounding xlr cable with prominent bass, i'd try to audition Siltech Royal Signature or Crown series cables. The latest PAD Anniversary cables are also very good. I would recommend Jorma Prime (which I think are excellent), but they are what I call "well balanced" cables and may not give you enough bass. They tick the warmth box however.
 
Diasoft - i use the Vitus MP Dac and Transport and also use Marten Coltrane 3 speakers.... so sort of vaguely similar to you, and i was chasing exactly what you said more warmth and bass. I went through Siltech Triple Crown, then Jorma Prime and then just last week switched in a Purist Audio Design Neptune cable. The best sound i have had in my system so far. Also very important is the power cable that feeds ur SCD 025. I have found my Vitus Dac is THE most sensitive to power cord changes out of all my components. And again i switched in a PAD Neptune power cord last week and the effect were profound. This was after Siltech Ruby Double Crown and Jorma Prime power cables.
 
pweg said:
Diasoft - i use the Vitus MP Dac and Transport and also use Marten Coltrane 3 speakers.... so sort of vaguely similar to you, and i was chasing exactly what you said more warmth and bass. I went through Siltech Triple Crown, then Jorma Prime and then just last week switched in a Purist Audio Design Neptune cable. The best sound i have had in my system so far. Also very important is the power cable that feeds ur SCD 025. I have found my Vitus Dac is THE most sensitive to power cord changes out of all my components. And again i switched in a PAD Neptune power cord last week and the effect were profound. This was after Siltech Ruby Double Crown and Jorma Prime power cables.
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Slightly scary that $2k midrange PAD cables best Jorma's flagship wire :huh:. Then again this is all subjective and system-dependent to a degree. But maybe the real excitement is a new flavor?
 
Melbguy1 said:
Slightly scary that $2k midrange PAD cables best Jorma's flagship wire :huh:. Then again this is all subjective and system-dependent to a degree. But maybe the real excitement is a new flavor?
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It´s even scarier that they beat the Siltech Triple Crown, we´re talking about €60,500 for 2.5m :weird: I´m glad for pweg, he´s found a sound that suits him and gotten his wallet out of intensive care in the process.
 
Narayan said:
It´s even scarier that they beat the Siltech Triple Crown, we´re talking about €60,500 for 2.5m :weird: I´m glad for pweg, he´s found a sound that suits him and gotten his wallet out of intensive care in the process.
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Rita Hayworth used to say, "They go to bed with Gilda; they wake up with me." We'll have to wait and see if Paul still feels the same way about those PAD snakes in the morning :lol:.
 
without being controversial and starting a cable meltdown, the fact is, spending more money on things does not guarantee you will get the sound that you want.

I used to always ask my dealer whats the best and i always bought it. But it was nowhere near the sound that I was trying to create. Hence in the Last 6 months I've tried a lot of different things in my system and am now getting a sound i really enjoy.

a perfect example is Purist Audio Design. His top cables ( the anniversary line) are silver based cables that excel in detail and speed. They sound very similar to the Triple Crown, but the Triple Crown has even more bass. Both Lines for me had their subjective tonality tilted to far forward in my system.

The Neptune cables have this wet midrange that is saturated and dense while still having a lot of air in the top. The tonality of the cable is much lower than the Siltech, Jorma and even the other PAD cables i had, so u still get a big tight bass. So for the OP i reckon he has to give them a go. Especially when you take into account the ceramic Accuton drivers that his and mine speakers share.
 
Thanks for your feedback on the PAD Neptune cables Pweg. Keeping the focus on Vitus gear, how would you describe the difference between Jorma Prime and PAD Neptune? The reason I asked is, In my ss system Prime sounds harmonically rich, warm and liquid sounding. Prime nails the midrange and is well balanced top to bottom. One word to describe Jorma is "natural".
 
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i would change up the descriptors. In my system the Jormas dont sound harmonically rich and warm. Instead i would say they sound neutral and organic without over emphasising detail and speed. The Neptunes sound blacker, quieter, richer through the middle, and the top end is like this - when u hear a triangle being struck, it rings in a blacker space so u can hear it clearly but it doesn't draw attention to the "top end' as being something different to the rest of the music.

also, and this will sound strange, it helps my SET amps sound more SET.

I originally got the Neptunes to go in my home cinema after discussing with Jim Aud what he thought the best cables were for a rich midrange. Just on a whim i plugged them into the big system and liked what i heard.
 
Thanks for your f'back Pweg. I added a qualifier to my previous comment "In my ss system". I should also clarify when I say "warm", I meant on the warm side of neutral, or a little bit warm, whilst the Statement sc's are neutral to my ears. But yes natural/organic is a good way to describe Jorma cables.

Anyway it sounds like atleast in your SET-based system, the PAD copper cables work best which can just be a synergy thing. I know when I was running my heavily modded Ayon CD-5s (as tubed linestage) and Boulder 1060 with my old Marten Coltrane Alto's, I preferred the more neutral (than Prime) Jorma Origo wire. In that setup I was running Origo xlr's, Prime pc's & Origo bi-wire sc's and the balance worked very well. Also synergy with the loudspeakers can't be understated. Magico's graphene-reinforced Carbon Nano-Tec drivers sound a lot different to Accuton-based speakers.

No real surprise here, but in my system atleast I found the sound became more coherent and liquid which I upgraded to a full loom of Jorma Prime xlr's and pc's + Statement sc's (which as you know are quite a bit better than Prime). Also I found upgrading my Prime pc's connectors to cryo'd Oyaide M1/F1 connectors lowered the noise floor and improved resolution. My next cable upgrade will be to replace the M1/F1's with Furutech FI-52 NCF connectors, which kinda changes the Prime pc's to Statement :audiophile:.

With the above said, whilst I can't see myself offloading my Jorma wire anytime soon, you've got me curious about the PAD Neptune cables. When I upgrade my Oppo 103 to the new Oppo UDP-205 I'll be looking for a set of mid-range wire, so I might give the PAD cables a try :thumbsup:.
 
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Ok, I will try Jorma and PAD Neptune XLR cables. When I listened to Magnan Vi and Acoustic Zen Silver Reference 2 I was amazed. It was like listening to two totally different Hifi Systems. I never thought an XLR cable could make such a big difference. The difference in my old ASR Emitter 2 HD Akku/Wadia 830/HGP Fuga ST - System was much smaller.

Gauder Akustik RC 7 Mk2 / HGP Fuga ST / Infinity 9.2i / Infinity 9a
Vitus Audio SIA-025 Mk2 / ASR Emitter II HD Akku / ASR Emitter II plus
Vitus Audio SCD-025 Mk2 / Wadia 830 / Oppo 105 tuned by Gert Volk Audio / Simon Yorke S9 / Amazon1 + SME V
Omtec Antares Phono Pre
Magnan, Acoustic Zen + Aural Symphonics Cable
Shun Mook Diamond Resonators
 
I agree, cables matter. I don't think you will be disappointed with either audition, and you may find some good synergy with one of those cables. Knowing your Vitus gear very well, from the Jorma line I would recommend auditioning Prime and/or Unity which are both on the warm side of neutral, or the new Jorma Duality xlr's if your budget is around the PAD Neptune cables.
 
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