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Hi Mike and Bonzo,

Thanks for the input.

I was recommended by my friend to listen Devialet + Vivid combination which occasionally listened to it during some shows.
The more I read on Devialet design gave me a feeling it's a Class D amp, I may be wrong on it. However, I would prefer Class A amp but with limited budget, I have to manage with RI-100, a Class AB amp and hope the RI-100 and Vivid B1 will have warm, neutrality and transparency.

Coming back to speaker cable, Mike, which range of Kimber and Siltech cable you have on your system?
Have any Vitus owners try out Cardas and MIT speaker cable?

The Devialet is a great all-in-one box solution. Sonically, to my ears, it sounds more Class A, than Class D, but it's a hybrid of both as you know. A D400 is not going to beat a $20,000 amp in most cases. People need to keep in mind that the Devialet gives you an amp, preamp, DAC, phonostage, and much more. If you break out each component, than maybe the amp/preamp section is in the $10-12K range (in terms of competition). It's a great value for sure.

If you're doing Vitus, try to save up for the Class A. You say you're a Class A kind of guy, than why would you settle for AB?

Kimber Select and Siltech Royal Signature Princess.
 
The Devialet is a great all-in-one box solution. Sonically, to my ears, it sounds more Class A, than Class D, but it's a hybrid of both as you know. A D400 is not going to beat a $20,000 amp in most cases. People need to keep in mind that the Devialet gives you an amp, preamp, DAC, phonostage, and much more. If you break out each component, than maybe the amp/preamp section is in the $10-12K range (in terms of competition). It's a great value for sure.

If you're doing Vitus, try to save up for the Class A. You say you're a Class A kind of guy, than why would you settle for AB?

Kimber Select and Siltech Royal Signature Princess.

+1 on the Devialet. I have driven my S5 with ASR Emitter II, Devialet 400, and RI-100, and my preference is in that order.

I have also heard the Vitus SIA-025 driving S5. I thought it was substantially better than the RI-100, though the environment was different.


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Hi Mike,

Thank you.

To save up more for Vitus Class A amp, I will forego my dreams of owning it.

May look at other manufacturer, Belles SA-30 but will discuss it in other thread. :D

The Devialet is a great all-in-one box solution. Sonically, to my ears, it sounds more Class A, than Class D, but it's a hybrid of both as you know. A D400 is not going to beat a $20,000 amp in most cases. People need to keep in mind that the Devialet gives you an amp, preamp, DAC, phonostage, and much more. If you break out each component, than maybe the amp/preamp section is in the $10-12K range (in terms of competition). It's a great value for sure.

If you're doing Vitus, try to save up for the Class A. You say you're a Class A kind of guy, than why would you settle for AB?

Kimber Select and Siltech Royal Signature Princess.
 
Update: Vitus SS-103 and SL-102 mk2 are sounding absolutely amazing. They have over 400 hours on them both. There aren't many SS amps that would make me give up tubes, but Vitus Class A is one of them. It's that good. The sound is dynamic, sweet, organic, not colored, engaging with some serious toe tapping.


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Mike- cool. how does Vitus sound compared to Pass XA?

And compared to Pass XS? :D

I haven't tried the XA or XS on the Magico's. Let's just say, they are all a lot more similar in sonic character than different. The Vitus has a real sweetness that's so addictive. The XS amps have boundless authority. In a totally different price class, the amp I would love to try is the Pass X350.8.
 
Update: Vitus SS-103 and SL-102 mk2 are sounding absolutely amazing. They have over 400 hours on them both. There aren't many SS amps that would make me give up tubes, but Vitus Class A is one of them. It's that good. The sound is dynamic, sweet, organic, not colored, engaging with some serious toe tapping.


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I wonder are they a good match with the Magico M3?
 
I wonder are they a good match with the Magico M3?

I think they will be an even better match with the M3's. The M3 is nicely more efficient than my S5 mk2's. The one downside to my Vitus gear is that I only have one set. I want Vitus on my Focal's (after hearing it), my Avantgarde (after hearing it) and of course, my Magico's!

The Vitus on Avantgarde was so good, I converted two customers in Tampa (Charles and Bart) from Sonus Faber to Avantgarde. To be honest, they liked the Avantgarde's a lot with tubes, but when they heard them with Vitus, they went crazy. Charles immediately bought a pair of Trios and Vitus order to follow (he always has to be one step ahead of me getting Trio's!). :rolleyes:
 
Hi Mike and Bonzo,

Thanks for the input.

I was recommended by my friend to listen Devialet + Vivid combination which occasionally listened to it during some shows.
The more I read on Devialet design gave me a feeling it's a Class D amp, I may be wrong on it. However, I would prefer Class A amp but with limited budget, I have to manage with RI-100, a Class AB amp and hope the RI-100 and Vivid B1 will have warm, neutrality and transparency.

Coming back to speaker cable, Mike, which range of Kimber and Siltech cable you have on your system?
Have any Vitus owners try out Cardas and MIT speaker cable?

Just get an used MSB S200 or S201 amps. Killer combo on both Magicos and Vivids.

The cost (used) is only a fraction of Vitus.
 
Have anyone compared SM-101 and SM-102 ? Right now the price difference is about 1:2
I can buy a occasional SM-101 and the seller is saying that it are those two are only slightly different.
 
Have anybody experience with Vitus SM 011 moons with Audio Research Pre ? Would it be good connection? I have Ref 6 and asking myself if it will play at 100%
 
Slowikpl,

I’ve had the Vitus SM 011 mono's for over two years now. I have no hesitation in recommending them, they are a small form factor(size) compared to SM-101 or SM-102, so they were ideal for me – I could fit them into my rack. SM 011 are one of the best purchases I’ve made. They drive my Magico S5.Mk2 without any problems in class ‘A’ mode, there is more than enough power in Class ‘A’ mode. There is great synergy with the Magicos.

A bit of history, when I first purchased them I was using them direct into the Jeff Rowland Aries DAC, on very rare occasions, I sometimes found the sound a little ‘slow’, (now this may have been due the newness of the SM 011 and they needed much longer run in period) in combination with the JR Aries. I replaced the Aries with the CH Precision C1, which was a ‘faster’ Dac/Pre and I never had that issue of slowness ever afterwards, the combination sounded just right.

I used to own AR Ref 5 preamp and sold it before I purchased the SM 011, so was never able to compare how they sounded in the same circuit. I think the Ref 6 is a little faster, more dynamic and punchier than the Ref5 – so this would be a better fit than the Ref5 with the SM 011. Tonally they are both fairly neutral so would be a good match, the only thing that would potentially concern me would do they sound a little ‘slow’ together.

If possible check this out either at home (ideally) or at a dealer’s place (by taking your Ref6 there) and check that they work together and you are happy with the sound.

I think the SM 011 are meant to be a little faster than the SM 101 and SM 102. I would recommend the SM 011, they still surprise me and I still end up saying ‘Wow’ even after over two years’ worth of use.

Hope that helps somewhat.
 
Has anyone paired a Burmester pre-amp with the SM011's? I'm looking for a bit more "speed" but not sure if the Burmester fits the bill - very few reviews online (in English at least) and they seem to describe the Burmester as neutral leaning towards warm. Thanks in advance.
 
Has anyone paired a Burmester pre-amp with the SM011's? I'm looking for a bit more "speed" but not sure if the Burmester fits the bill - very few reviews online (in English at least) and they seem to describe the Burmester as neutral leaning towards warm. Thanks in advance.

I’ve never heard any Burmester gear so cannot make any comments if it would fit the bill. But if want to get more “Speed” I suggest you try “Soulution 520 Pre” or the “CH Precision L1 Pre” with your Vitus SM-011, They both are meant to be “faster”, and are of the same standard as the Vitus.

I am using the CH C1 Dac/pre and it has speeded up the Vitus. I believe both brands are represented in NY, Sound by Singer for Soulution and Audioarts for CH. Hopefully both dealers will lend you their pre’s to try at home.

Oh, and I don’t know if this counts but the standard CH component is very similar size and shape to Vitus SM011, so it does not look too out of place sitting next to the Vitus SM-011
 
I have had a lot of compares with Burmesters (909, 911, 956 and 088 and 077), and would recommend the Vitus class A power amps (not the older cheaper used AB).

On preamps, I did not compare the CH, but heard it in Gian60's system and he has been through various gear including Gryphon, expensive triodes from Kondo, etc, and prefers CH as it seems to be the best of both. So, like Jambo says, the CH pre into Vitus makes sense to me, and I get where you are coming from in terms of speed. I wish Vitus had more speed like the Spectral, but then I like Vitus density and liquidity and body. The CH is expensive though and the used market has not developed yet, since still too new and good.

You can see Gian's CH stack here http://zero-distortion.org/the-italian-over-the-top-road-trip/
 
Has anyone paired a Burmester pre-amp with the SM011's? I'm looking for a bit more "speed" but not sure if the Burmester fits the bill - very few reviews online (in English at least) and they seem to describe the Burmester as neutral leaning towards warm. Thanks in advance.
Rule of thumb: Vitus sounds best with Vitus. I'd recommend the Vitus SL-103 for synergy with your SM-011 mono's. That way you can avoid any potential impedance issues & improve musical coherency. If your cables have low signal propagation delay (like Nordost), you shouldn't be left wanting for speed. Though if you're chasing super fast amps, i'd seek out an audition of the latest Soulution gear rather than mixing and matching.
 
Thank you for the very interesting thread.

I'm looking at Avantgarde speakers (Duo or Uno, I think).

Does anybody know if the sounds quality of SIA-025 is as good as SL-103 and SM-011 when 25 Class A is more than enough?

Thank you.
 
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