Unpacking the Shunyata Everest 8000

kennyb123 said:
My original Denali is as good as it was when I purchased it. The Denali v2 didn’t diminish it one bit. I’m glad I hopped onboard with a company that continues to innovate - especially when that innovation brings a bigger bang for the buck.
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I agree. Continued innovation and product development is the name of the name for any good, R&D-based, high-end audio company. This isn't unique to Shunyata. All good high-end audio companies work this way. Conrad-Johnson released a better-performing preamp, the GAT, that superceded and surpassed the performance of my CT-5. But it doesn't mean that my CT-5 was any less a great product and a great-sounding preamp. I lived with it and enjoyed it for over a decade. I sold it to someone who is now also enjoying it.

Shunyata has been on a mission to bring their innovative and proprietary technologies into their products at lower price points, to be accessible to a wider segment of customers. For example, the Venom NR series of power cords released in 2019 brought their power cord noise reduction technology down to their entry-level line level of power cords that was previously unavailable, at a price approximately 1/2 that of the higher-spec Delta NR v1 series of PCs. Same for their interconnects. You can now buy the Alpha V2 interconnect with the proprietary TAP device in an interconnect that sounds better than the original Sigma v1 ICs, and...at half the price.

Most high-end companies cascade their proprietary and cutting-edge tech upwards, reserved only for their highest level, top-price tier of products.

Shunyata takes their innovative and proprietary technologies and cascades them downwards, to make them more available to a broader range of customers at lower price tiers. Who else does that? The only other companies I can think of are Lampizator and Rega. What's not to like? ;)
 
would like to confirm the downwards success.....recently i purchased a couple of delta2 nr powercords and find them not only excellent value but also no clear benefit to go any higher, apart for the PD, pre and dac.
 
Yeah, the Delta NR v2 PC is a great power cord. And an excellent value. It's better than the the original Alpha NR v1 PC, at half the cost.
 
Dizzie said:
This discussion is very frustrating for me. I am building two semi-final systems. I would like an Everest for one of them but can't handle the size and shape. Its just to huge. I don't have room next to my double-width stand. And one of the slots is dedicated for a power conditioner. That is where an Everest would go if it was a traditional shape. A 6-outlet of the same quality would be even better for price. Fitting into that shelf space would also preclude the need for longer power cords necessitated by going farther off-center with a conditioner. The style and size of the Everest leaves me scratching my head.
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i am scatching my head about how is it possible to not have place for an everest?
it is not supposed to squeeze it into a rack...just place it somewhere on the floor alone. next or behind whatever.

would a 6 outlet version of the same quality be cheaper?
first, to offer multiple versions make things more expansive. more hassle, smaller quantity per unit. a 6 outlet version would make the 8 outlet version more expansive to a little degree.
then, if you look inside the everest you will see that the cost comes from all the boxes inside.
you would need all the same for the 6 outlet version. the 2 extra outlets cost marginal as well as the little bit more of aluminium for the higher hight.
that said, i did wish a smaller version when i bought the everesrt. by now, i wish it had 10 or more outlets.
 
Puma Cat said:
Yeah, the Delta NR v2 PC is a great power cord. And an excellent value. It's better than the the original Alpha NR v1 PC, at half the cost.
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and, at half the size!!!:)
in the shop they had a full loom shunyata system with all them black thick tubes.
monstercool, but not my cup of tea in the living room. too frithening for my daughter i was thinking.
 
A question to Puma or other Everest owners who might know...

Are all 8 outlets on the Everest connected to the QR/BB modules?

If I recall correctly, on my Denali 6000T only 2 of 6 of the outlets are connected to QR/BB.
 
mdp632 said:
A question to Puma or other Everest owners who might know...

Are all 8 outlets on the Everest connected to the QR/BB modules?

If I recall correctly, on my Denali 6000T only 2 of 6 of the outlets are connected to QR/BB.
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Yes, all 8.


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rrwmd said:
I wish Shunyata would make a four outlet version of the Everest. (And a black option too.)
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Same. Don’t so much care about the color choices.

I think the US market Denali 6000T was in Black only and Everest 8000 is silver only.

Probably has to do with the cost in producing the tower form factor re: keeping cost down offering one color choice.

Regardless of color , I’m a fan of the tower form factor and would love to see to see a “Junior” tower with 4 outlets but, Everest tech.

For those with smaller systems but, want the performance and tower form factor over the Denali V2.
 
Dizzie said:
Wanted: 6-outlet and shaped to fit on a shelf.
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Having owned a Denali 6000T and looking forward to an Everest (Tower)

Having owned a Triton V1 in the past (Shelf)


I’d never go back to a shelf model but, do appreciate that everyone has their own preference.

That said, I hope they do offer an Everest 4000/6000 T in the future.

For those of use with no more shelf space or expensive racks that we can’t expand.

A tower model fits the bill quite nicely.
 
Just a note for the gang's consideration regarding a smaller form-factor Everest.

From my understanding, this isn't possible because the some of most key components and subsystems in Everest simply won't fit in a smaller form factor. Two of the reasons that Everest outperforms, say, a Denali V2, is 1) the QR/BB module is 3X the size of the module in Denali 6000/S V2 2) Everest has a very large internal CMode filter that Denali does not have, either. So, if you want all the performance of Everest, quite simply, it needs to be in a power distributor that is the size of Everest. My hypothesis is that a fewer number of power outlets would not circumvent the size, or more, accurately, internal volume requirements of just those two key subsystems. The internal ground-plane noise reduction system (again, which you should not overlook) may also take up some more space as it has 4X the no. of ground posts, but I'm not sure if that would be a internal volume dimensional factor, or not.

Just a final note: having visited the Shunyata factory in June, and having observed the care and meticulousness with they approach design, development, and manufacturing, I can speak first-hand to the fact that every single part, conductor, component, wire, nut, bolt, fastener, damping material, and very likely other factors I'm not aware of, is evaluated by Shunyata in detail for function, performance, and impact on audio quality. For example, even "little things", e.g. the internal fasteners, e.g, a screw, or spade lug connector, are evaluated for their impact on sound quality. A tiny little resistor inside the AC plug of a power cord, whose only purpose is a safety function to prevent a possible static charge from occurring when unplugging the power cord from a receptacle, is listened to thoroughly for it's impact on sound quality. Folks may not know that all Shunyata power distributors are lined with a proprietary damping material that is carefully developed and tested to mitigate the impact of vibration on audio quality. The trick here to use just the right amount: too little doesn't provide enough damping, and too much can over-damp the power distributor and "deaden" the sound. So, finding just the right amount is key. Even the footers have undergone significant design and development, with many different designs and materials tried and tested, until they arrived at the SSF-38 and SSF-50 footer design.

The key takeaway was really clear: Caelin and Shunyata think through, design, and test, test, test virtually everything with respect to their product design, and...in meticulous detail. I'm tellin' ya, if you have not visited them to see how rigorously and thoroughly they do this, you're not going to fully understand. The examples I've provided are just fraction of the scope and depth of their design and development work.

The bottom line is their products are designed the way they are because that's the currently very best possible way they know to design and manufacture it.
 
Thanks for sharing.

No doubt in mind Shunyata has been on a roll the past 18 months or so with their new products.

I’m looking forward to the much rumored Signal grounding product. If anyone can get it right it is Caelin and team.

Perhaps, the QR/BB tech can be applied to an Omega line of speaker cables and interconnects too.

That said, I’ve owned the Venom PS8, Triton V1 , Denali 6000T and coming soon the Everest.

However, I do wish they offered another tower model outside of the flagship Everest.

I’d think it would be fairly popular. Perhaps the Denali V3 will be offered again in a tower model.

I would think that their dealers would be asking for a more “accessible “ tower model outside of the Flagship.

Price aside, the shelf models take up a shelf and don’t look clean if you have to install them on the floor.

Even the new Venom models it seems (From the website ) that they have gone to the shelf models rather the power strip version of the PS8.

That of which at least you could place a PS8 behind your equipment rack again freely up a shelf on your rack.
 
mdp632 said:
Thanks for sharing.

No doubt in mind Shunyata has been on a roll the past 18 months or so with their new products.

I’m looking forward to the much rumored Signal grounding product. If anyone can get it right it is Caelin and team.

Perhaps, the QR/BB tech can be applied to an Omega line of speaker cables and interconnects too.

That said, I’ve owned the Venom PS8, Triton V1 , Denali 6000T and coming soon the Everest.

However, I do wish they offered another tower model outside of the flagship Everest.

I’d think it would be fairly popular. Perhaps the Denali V3 will be offered again in a tower model.

I would think that their dealers would be asking for a more “accessible “ tower model outside of the Flagship.

Price aside, the shelf models take up a shelf and don’t look clean if you have to install them on the floor.

Even the new Venom models it seems (From the website ) that they have gone to the shelf models rather the power strip version of the PS8.

That of which at least you could place a PS8 behind your equipment rack again freely up a shelf on your rack.
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Yeah, I can't speak to what is in development with respect to the the product portfolio. The pandemic, though, has really, really put a major hurt on manufacturing sectors. The price of steel is up over 220%, and the price of highly pure metal refining, casting and drawing is way, up, too, as well as the costs for ICs, chips, logistics, supply chain, etc., etc. For a product manufacturer, you want to have a portfolio of products that provide maximal VALUE, where VALUE=QUALITY/PRICE. The key with respect to effective product portfolio management is to have clearly differentiated product lines that provide maximal value within their respective product "lanes", so to speak, but do not compete with each other. So, for an audio manufacturer, an effective approach might be GOOD/BETTER/BEST and SOTA. You don't want to have too many product lines because too many choices is confusing for customers, and managing all the raw materials, manufacturing, QC, QA (not the same thing as QC), distribution/retail for a lot of product lines is costly and high-effort (where EFFORT = TIME+STEPS from a LEAN perspective). Also, something folks never think about is the cost of the packing materials for a given product. Many products need custom EPS foam inserts, bags, manuals, product manuals or product sheets (that have to be offset printed, yet another cost), boxes, etc. These packing materials alone can add a notable cost to the BOM. I think I remember a comment by Danny Richie of GR-Reseach that for consumer-market speaker manufacturers, for example, that the packing materials alone can consume 25-30% of the cost of the BOM for a pair of speakers.
 
mdp632 said:
Even the new Venom models it seems (From the website ) that they have gone to the shelf models rather the power strip version of the PS8.

That of which at least you could place a PS8 behind your equipment rack again freely up a shelf on your rack.
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You can just orient the new V16 on it's front panel if you want to use it like a "power strip" behind your rack. Cut a piece of beeswax cloth the size of the panel, lay it on the panel and rest it face down on a strip of maple or particle board; the beeswax cloth will provide mechanical grounding and constrained layer damping. Job done! If memory serves, Robert Harley used his Triton V3's resting face down on their front panels.
 
a.wayne said:
Inflation running around 20% , so the next price increase will reflect ...!
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The COVID pandemic has had a major impact on both raw materials as well as manufactured goods. From everything from COGS (cost of goods & services) to supply chain and logistics. The cost of steel is up over 220%, for example. A friend told me the other day that the price of a sheet of plywood has increased something like 500%. All this translates to higher prices.
 
Stephen, while I haven't looked since last week before Ida, lumber prices (generally) have fallen way back. No where near the percentage increase you speak of in my area. Regardless, COVID along with many other factors have created a true 'money grab' !
 
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