Unpacking the Shunyata Everest 8000

Bar81 said:
If you feel that strongly that any other PCs are "illegitimate" for lack of a better word with the Everest, why isn't a Sigma XC included with the Everest (with Omega XC as an upgrade option)?
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Probably because some (or perhaps many) folks already own a Sigma XC or Omega XC for their current PDs? ;)

Just a side note: a Sigma XC lets a Denali V2 function to its full potential, also. Highly recommended for Denali V2. 👍
 
Bar81 said:
If you feel that strongly that any other PCs are "illegitimate" for lack of a better word with the Everest, why isn't a Sigma XC included with the Everest (with Omega XC as an upgrade option)?
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The Everest represents our ultimate expression for a power conditioning component. If you want good enough, choose one of our lower level conditioners. If you want the best, you should match it with the cords that allow it to deliver its full potential.

Why not package it with a dedicated cord. Because our dealer base and customers would complain bitterly and then want to know what it would cost if we did a power delete option. Other reasons below.


1) The Everest was designed using the Sigma and Omega power cords. I don’t know of any power that can match their capability when used with the Everest.

2) Many people have prior versions of our power cords and will want to use them for monetary reasons. Of course they will work just fine but they will not experience the full potential of the Everest. Perhaps they can upgrade the cords at a later date.

3) Some people have other very expensive power cables that they may want to try or to use. I have no control over what they do. I can only make recommendations based upon what I know.

JMO and YMMV and all the qualifiers.
 
Puma Cat said:
Probably because some folks already own a Sigma XC or Omega XC for their current PDs...
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Shunyata can't have it both ways - either (1) only Sigma XC/Omega XC work "properly" with the Everest - in which case one of those PCs should be included with Everest (and the Everest retail of $8k is very misleading) or (2) no power cable is included with Everest which means that a comparison using a power cable other than the Sigma XC/Omega XC is valid to evaluate the performance of the Everest.
 
CGabriel said:
The Everest represents our ultimate expression for a power conditioning component. If you want good enough, choose one of our lower level conditioners. If you want the best, you should match it with the cords that allow it to deliver its full potential.

Why not package it with a dedicated cord. Because our dealer base and customers would complain bitterly and then want to know what it would cost if we did a power delete option. Other reasons below.


1) The Everest was designed using the Sigma and Omega power cords. I don’t know of any power that can match their capability when used with the Everest.

2) Many people have prior versions of our power cords and will want to use them for monetary reasons. Of course they will work just fine but they will not experience the full potential of the Everest. Perhaps they can upgrade the cords at a later date.

3) Some people have other very expensive power cables that they may want to try or to use. I have no control over what they do. I can only make recommendations based upon what I know.

JMO and YMMV and all the qualifiers.
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Thanks. Where I was having an issue was with the comment that the Everest cannot be properly evaluated without a specific cable - that was a statement I've never seen from Shunyata before. It sounds like rather than that, what Shunyata is saying is that it recommends a particular cable with Everest that it feels provides the best performance - which is fine. However, not using that cable does not mean that a consumer's comments about Everest are not valid.
 
Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight?

They are just my opinions and suggestions. You can accept or reject them as you wish.

And I never used your quotation words, “illegitimate” or “properly”. So maybe you are reading something into my statements that aren’t there. If you reread what I said, I was quite precise in what I actually did say in spite of how you re-interpreted it.
 
CGabriel said:
Sounds like you are trying to pick a fight?

They are just my opinions and suggestions. You can accept or reject them as you wish.

And I never used your quotation words, “illegitimate” or “properly”. So maybe you are reading something into my statements that aren’t there. If you reread what I said, I was quite precise in what I actually did say in spite of how you re-interpreted it.
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Not at all. As you saw in my response, I was looking for clarity in respect of your earlier comment:

"And don’t judge the Everest based upon your experience with anything other than a Sigma XC or Omega XC power cord."

That statement on its face is consistent with my comments; I'm not sure why you're getting upset with me or claiming that I'm twisting your words.
 
hey bar81, no need for overly sharp perspectives.
i think it is very very cool for us here to answer&question with a manufactor directly.
 
The only reason I raised this is that I am evaluating an Everest shortly for purchase and I was caught off guard by that comment as I have no intention of evaluating the Everest (at least at this time) if I need to spend another $3,500+ on a PC as part of the evaluation. Once Caelin responded, I understood that the comment was not intended as written and I expected that that would be it until I was accused of being nasty which was not my intent (although it appears that I am too "direct" for some people's liking as Mike has similarly taken another of my comments to be nasty when it was not intended as such). To me, the value of having manufacturers on the forum is in large part their knowledge and singular expertise in respect of their products (which Caelin has demonstrated many times and which has helped me in purchasing many Shunyata products) - so when a manufacturer make a statement about their product, it carries a lot of weight with me and I want to make sure I understand it.

I'll show myself out now since it seems I'm no longer welcome.
 
i think your explanation is very welcome and understandable. take my apologize as i understood your intention a little harsh as well. same things happens to everybody.
lets shake hands and move on.
 
Bar81 said:
Not at all. As you saw in my response, I was looking for clarity in respect of your earlier comment:

"And don’t judge the Everest based upon your experience with anything other than a Sigma XC or Omega XC power cord."

That statement on its face is consistent with my comments; I'm not sure why you're getting upset with me or claiming that I'm twisting your words.
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No worries friend. We all can sometimes be misinterpreted with brief messages.
 
I’ve had my Everest + Omega XC since Wednesday which replaced my Denali 6000S v2 + Typhon QR + Sigma v1, and all that I can say is that I am a bit spellbound with the improvement even though the Denali is excellent. My monoblock amps remain on their own dedicated 20 AC lines plugged directly into the wall outlets with all my other gear plugged into the Everest on my other dedicated AC line.

As I have written before, I am planing on trying the Typhon with my Everest once the Sigma v2 umbilical arrives, but now that that I’ve heard the Everest + Omega as it breaks in, I’m wondering if it is even worth trying as the Everest + Omega is sooo sooo good; at least in my system. If by chance, the Typhon appears to enhance the Everest, then maybe an Omega umbilical might be more appropriate than the Sigma v2 umbilical although that will drive the price up even further??

Caelin, do you have any thoughts about using a Typhon QR in conjunction with the Everest?
 
I’ve had my Everest + Omega XC since Wednesday which replaced my Denali 6000S v2 + Typhon QR + Sigma v1, and all that I can say is that I am a bit spellbound with the improvement even though the Denali is excellent. My monoblock amps remain on their own dedicated 20 AC lines plugged directly into the wall outlets with all my other gear plugged into the Everest on my other dedicated AC line.

As I have written before, I am planing on trying my Typhon with my Everest once the Sigma v2 umbilical arrives, but now that that I’ve heard the Everest + Omega as it breaks in, I’m wondering if it is even worth trying as the Everest + Omega is sooo sooo good; at least in my system. If by chance, the Typhon appears to enhance the Everest, then maybe an Omega umbilical might be more appropriate than the Sigma v2 umbilical although that will drive the price up even further??

Caelin, although listening is the only way to know, do you have any thoughts about using a Typhon QR in conjunction with the Everest as the Typhon was specifically made for the now discontinued Triton?
 
RLF said:
I’ve had my Everest + Omega XC since Wednesday which replaced my Denali 6000S v2 + Typhon QR + Sigma v1, and all that I can say is that I am a bit spellbound with the improvement even though the Denali is excellent. My monoblock amps remain on their own dedicated 20 AC lines plugged directly into the wall outlets with all my other gear plugged into the Everest on my other dedicated AC line.

As I have written before, I am planing on trying the Typhon with my Everest once the Sigma v2 umbilical arrives, but now that that I’ve heard the Everest + Omega as it breaks in, I’m wondering if it is even worth trying as the Everest + Omega is sooo sooo good; at least in my system. If by chance, the Typhon appears to enhance the Everest, then maybe an Omega umbilical might be more appropriate than the Sigma v2 umbilical although that will drive the price up even further??

Caelin, do you have any thoughts about using a Typhon QR in conjunction with the Everest?
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Well, since you have it, it is worth trying. Since you have a separate dedicated line for the amps the Typhon QR would be best used with amps. You can plug it in parallel to the amps instead of in series.

Personally, I prefer the Everest a cappella. No seasonings.
 
RLF said:
...but now that that I’ve heard the Everest + Omega as it breaks in, I’m wondering if it is even worth trying as the Everest + Omega is sooo sooo good; at least in my system.
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I don't think it would be worth the hassle...IMHO, simpler is better. Kinda like the old Linn-Sondek mantra.

But I agree, that as good as Denali is...Everest is quite amazing.
 
CGabriel said:
Well, since you have it, it is worth trying. Since you have a separate dedicated line for the amps the Typhon QR would be best used with amps. You can plug it in parallel to the amps instead of in series.

Personally, I prefer the Everest a cappella. No seasonings.
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Never heard cappella described in this manner, like the use of the word


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CGabriel said:
Well, since you have it, it is worth trying. Since you have a separate dedicated line for the amps the Typhon QR would be best used with amps. You can plug it in parallel to the amps instead of in series.

Personally, I prefer the Everest a cappella. No seasonings.
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Caelin, Thank you for your reply and your thoughts. Yeah, after experiencing the Everest/Omega XC, I don’t think that I want to mess with something that sounds so good, although I guess that I don’t have anything to loose by trying my Typhon with it just for fun.

I would certainly go with your recommendation to try the Typhon with my amps, but since they are mono-blocks, I would need another Typhon for the second amp.

I do have a separate dedicated home theater room which has a Triton V3 powering the audio end in there. I don’t have any room in my rack for the Typhon, but I’m somehow going to try to stuff it behind the rack. If I can manage to find enough room behind the rack, that might be the best place for it.
 
Puma Cat said:
I don't think it would be worth the hassle...IMHO, simpler is better. Kinda like the old Linn-Sondek mantra.

But I agree, that as good as Denali is...Everest is quite amazing.
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Thanks for your input. That’s my thoughts too. To try the Typhon in my stereo, I would have to power everything down including my music server and then move power cords around in a “tight” spot behind my audio rack. The “KISS” (Keep It Simple Stupid) theory comes to mind here.:D

As to the Everest, Awesome comes to mind. Also finesse!
 
CGabriel said:
Since you have a separate dedicated line for the amps the Typhon QR would be best used with amps. You can plug it in parallel to the amps instead of in series.
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Hi Caelin, one quick question: What do you mean by “plug it in parallel to the amps instead of series?” I only have one duplex for the my amps, so I don’t see how a single Denali would work in that application? Thanks.
 
RLF said:
Hi Caelin, one quick question: What do you mean by “plug it in parallel to the amps instead of series?” I only have one duplex for the my amps, so I don’t see how a single Denali would work in that application? Thanks.
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I suspect he means plug the amp into one socket, and the Typhon into the other socket. If you have two amps plugged into one socket then you can't run the Typhon like that. The Denali and Typhon are two different pieces of gear.
 
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