Tidal versus Quobuz

I'm still using Tital and Qobuz daily. Lately I've been playing with upsampling from both to 32bit 192kHz if possible with the i7 transporter. My main complaint about Tital at least as far as their web site is concerned is I always feel like I'm walked into the wrong neighborhood when I jump into it. Qobuz has such a good classical selection that I find it hard to give up on Qobuz. And the HiRez sound it very good. On my system I can't say MQA is leaps and bounds better than my simple upsampling so far. I have Amazon Prime but until I can run it on Room or with the Lumin I'm just not going to look into it.
 
Darrel said:
I have Amazon Prime but until I can run it on Room or with the Lumin I'm just not going to look into it.
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You may use AirPlay to play Amazon Music on an iOS device to Lumin. This is why we released Firmware 11.7 to improve AirPlay.
 
PMCH said:
I had both Tidal and Qobuz. I found I preferred the sound quality of Tidal cd quality and MQA over Qobuz cd quality and Hi-Res by the slightest of margins on my system.
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Since you like MQA sound, do you happen to like SDLY2 filter of your K-01X?
 
bluegrassphile said:
Just curious, does listening to Qobuz or Tidal in a moving vehicle create more drop outs? I seem to experience more drop outs while listening to Qobuz or Tidal in a moving vehicle. Can't prove it though.
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Although I never tested this scenario, I guess this should be normal depending on your region and cellular service coverage and your smartphone, since cellular data service is far from perfect. Try downgrading the audio quality in the corresponding app when you are in a vehicle. Or try Spotify instead.
 
Peter, I only use the K-01x to play CD's & SACD's but I do believe I use the SDLY2 filter setting. For streaming and hi-res downloads I have my Aurender N10 feeding my Berkeley MQA DAC.
 
Is anyone successfully streaming Qobuz UPnP from a Mac (10.14)? I'm about ready to look beyond this D2. Audirvana won't run well either, it runs a little. Qobuz not at all. The only Mac desktop software I find that will stream at all (UPnP) is Linn Kazoo. Put another way, Linn fires up 100% every time, nothing else will.
 
Every time I get on this sub forum I feel like I'm a dinosaur in the twilight zone. I have so much to learn and so much ground to make up. I know this is all basic computer 101 for people who were born in the '80s or later. Heck, I don't know a megabyte from a UPnP. All I know is what my ears like. And I know how to tickle them in an analog way. But when it comes to computer logic, basic and intermediate computer operations, digital, and streaming, I'm lost. I'd love to learn more about it. But I don't even know where to start. The terminology alone is daunting. Sometimes I feel like I'm staring up at Mt. Everest. Me thinks I was born about 30 years too early.
 
XRS said:
Is anyone successfully streaming Qobuz UPnP from a Mac (10.14)? I'm about ready to look beyond this D2. Audirvana won't run well either, it runs a little. Qobuz not at all. The only Mac desktop software I find that will stream at all (UPnP) is Linn Kazoo. Put another way, Linn fires up 100% every time, nothing else will.
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Ideally you wouldn't be streaming any actual audio from the Mac to LUMIN D2 in that scenario. LUMIN D2 should be streaming directly from the Qobuz servers. Is there a specific reason you want to stream from a computer (DSP, or some other processing for example?).

Most common operation would be to use the LUMIN App to browse Qobuz, select the music and then set a playlist playing.
 
bluegrassphile said:
Every time I get on this sub forum I feel like I'm a dinosaur in the twilight zone. I have so much to learn and so much ground to make up. I know this is all basic computer 101 for people who were born in the '80s or later. Heck, I don't know a megabyte from a UPnP. All I know is what my ears like. And I know how to tickle them in an analog way. But when it comes to computer logic, basic and intermediate computer operations, digital, and streaming, I'm lost. I'd love to learn more about it. But I don't even know where to start. The terminology alone is daunting. Sometimes I feel like I'm staring up at Mt. Everest. Me thinks I was born about 30 years too early.
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There’s multiple levels and at entry you only really need to know how to hook it up, and this can be walked through on the phone, then you can go further in. Doesn’t take much to hear music out the gate.


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UltraFast69 said:
There’s multiple levels and at entry you only really need to know how to hook it up, and this can be walked through on the phone, then you can go further in. Doesn’t take much to hear music out the gate.


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Yeah, I can usually hook things up without much difficulty and get them up and running. And maybe I know a little more than I let on. But I'm seriously computer and digitally challenged.
 
thingswelike said:
Ideally you wouldn't be streaming any actual audio from the Mac to LUMIN D2 in that scenario. LUMIN D2 should be streaming directly from the Qobuz servers. Is there a specific reason you want to stream from a computer (DSP, or some other processing for example?).

Most common operation would be to use the LUMIN App to browse Qobuz, select the music and then set a playlist playing.
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Thanks. Yes, I am streaming from their servers. Modem>SGP108 Switch>Wired to Lumin D2. I'm just using the provided desktop app (Tidal, Qobuz) for browsing and playlists, the point being the 27" screen. I don't have an ipad. I guess I'll have to buy one thereby adding another device to operate the Lumin. (forget the iphone app, only works decent for toggling options)

As far as (being on topic) Tidal vs Qobuz I find I need both libraries and they both sound acceptable at Hi-Res.
 
XRS said:
(forget the iphone app, only works decent for toggling options)
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I guess the screen size could be an issue, but since we launched the iPhone version, I have to say I use it exclusively these days.
But curating playlists is best done on the desktop or web apps from Qobuz/TIDAL themselves.

It's also worth noting that this was posted on our facebook page a little while ago:
https://www.facebook.com/luminmusic/posts/1456247001179664
 
If you have to use the desktop, please use Linn Kazoo. We do not provide schedules for future features.
 
Well both sound the same to me. I cannot make a difference between 16 bits and 24 bits just like famous composers, sound engineers, artists cannot make this difference when they play blindtests conducted by journalists (I can give sources but it is in French - Le Monde newspaper for instance). Honestly, my point of view is that no one can make a difference but this is my point of view. It is a psychological matter : you believe you have a better sound using Qobuz rather than Spotify but too many people cannot make this difference in blindtests. You believe it because you want to have state-of-the-art products and files. And between us, it is so nice to have a message "192K / 24bits" displayed on your Lumin player (or other). Again, this is only my point of view.

So the choice between the 2 will be based on the app behaviour and design, on the reliability and on the ease of use with other devices. Tidal is clearly better on this but Qobuz has very talented curators for jazz and classical.
 
Just signed up for Quboz a few days ago. Some initial thoughts comparing it to Tidal:

1) The stand-alone apps are comparable in ease of use and design.
2) The sound quality is comparable as well. Tidal might be a tad bit more open, but the difference is not enough to distinguish the two.
3) I have found several albums on Tidal that are not on Quboz. I've only found two albums on Quboz that are not on Tidal.
4) Quboz has a better jazz selection. Tidal has a better classic R&B and Pop selection (more obscure titles than Quboz).

As it stands now, I wouldn't choose one over the other for any reason other than quality of service (drop outs, response to customer complaints, etc.). I'll keep both for now and decide later.
 
Wondering what’s the difference between the premier and sublime. Wasn’t clear to me at Qobuz site.
 
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