The Ultimate MAGICO Experience for Audioshark Members - Saturday August 27, 2016

Nataraja said:
Gentlemen, would you please make a comparison between the new Magico М3 and the S5mkII?
Do you think the performance difference justifies the price? In what areas do you think M3 is vastly superb and is there anything (except the price) you think the S5mkII are better at?
What about the room? Do you think both models are suitable for the same size rooms, or one of them should perform better in smaller/larger one?
Please share your detailed opinion - i`m sure it would be interesting for many users here.

Thank you!
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Hi Nataraja - welcome!

My M3's are in transit and will be arriving next week. Having only heard them at Magico HQ, it's difficult to draw any significant comparisons. But based on what I've heard, the M3's do a complete disappearing act. They have improved drivers and most importantly seamless driver integration (so good, that they must be heard to be believed).

Is the price difference justified? To me....HELL YES! But we are talking about M3's which cost almost double the S5 mk2's - a very capable and amazing speaker in their own right.

I would put it to you this way: if you are going for the best speaker under $50k, the S5 mk2 is definitely on a very very short list and probably at the top. If you are going for the best speaker under $100k, the M3 is again on a very very short list.

I will note one more thing. Unlike the Q series, which seemed to be polarizing - some loved it, others not so much and those that weren't keen on the Q series in turn, often gravitated toward the S series. I personally feel the M3 will in fact be MORE popular than the S series and appeal to an even larger audience - if that makes sense. They are that good.

The M3 also will work as well, maybe even a little better, in small to large rooms. The footprint of the M3 is perfect. Not too big, not too small....you know the rest!

In the 24 x 33 sized room at Magico (a BIG room), the M3's performed brilliantly. I would have no hesitation putting them in a 12 x 15 up to a 24 x 33 room and everything in between.

I am SUPER excited to be getting mine next week.

Mike
 
The M3 is the first Magico speaker that I truly believe I could live with for the long haul.

I keep reading that the S5 mk2 are close to the M3s - I don't agree at all. I think that people are saying the S5 mk2 is close just to make the S5 mk2 owners feel better. And I don't get why S5 owners would be upset - the M3s are twice the price of the S5 mk2s, and in my opinion they are way better than twice better in sound.

The M3s should be a must listen to anybody wanting a speaker over $50,000. And that includes the Q7 etc. range of speakers.
 
Thank you all!
So you think there is nothing that S5 mk2 do better than the M3.
How about the lowest frequencies and the sound pressure.
I noticed that the demo in Magico`s room included two mighty Magico subs, but since their room is so big, i guess in a smaller space M3 would be absolutely adequate on their own.

Mike, i`m eager to read your impressions and comparison between the two models, when the M3 arrive. And i`m more than curious how they pair with Vitus.
 
Nataraja said:
Thank you all!
So you think there is nothing that S5 mk2 do better than the M3.
How about the lowest frequencies and the sound pressure.
I noticed that the demo in Magico`s room included two mighty Magico subs, but since their room is so big, i guess in a smaller space M3 would be absolutely adequate on their own.

Mike, i`m eager to read your impressions and comparison between the two models, when the M3 arrive. And i`m more than curious how they pair with Vitus.
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We listened to the M3's mostly without the subs. Like you, I was curious about the low end. I was shocked at how good the bass was. Tight, bass, balanced, punchy and most importantly, incredibly detailed. A kick drum sounded like a real kick drum!

The M3 is superior in the "rattle your ass" department...but it's close. As Ian (MadFloyd) always tells me, "Mike, nothing beats Magico bass."
 
At twice the price of the S5 Mk2's, in theory atleast the M3's should be twice as good as the S5 Mk2. However the law of diminishing returns still applies, so I'd expect the S5 Mk2's would hold their own, perhaps even get close to the M3's in one or two areas. Actually, the two speakers share some commonality; the S5 Mk2 uses exactly the same midrange drivers as the M3 (Part No: MAG6004RTC), as well as the copper woofer coupling system, computer-modeled polymer midrange enclosure & machined, 3D convex top plate.

Apropos which, I'm auditioning the M3's this weekend at my Dealer's showroom which should be a revelation! :cool:.
 
I agree with Mike. The M3s without subs were more than adequate in Magico's large room. Alon played some really loud passages and there was no strain at all from the M3s.
 
still-one said:
I think you left out the smiley face at the end of this sentence. Nowhere is audio do ratios apply. Unfortunately it often works the other way.
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Indeed, the law of diminishing returns certainly applies, and Magico is not immune. Though more than any other high end company I know, Magico offer great cost/performance at every price point in their range.
 
Hi all,

Its my first post and i am very curious about Mike comment that the M3 will fit in a 12x15 room which exactly is my room dimension. I currently have a S1 mk2 but really want to upgrade to M3 as a long time speaker. However, i have been put off by the thought that M3 maybe oversize for my room.
 
Hi Mike,

Appreciate if you can elaborate your thought on the M3 on a small room(15x12).
 
Melbguy1 said:
Indeed, the law of diminishing returns certainly applies, and Magico is not immune. Though more than any other high end company I know, Magico offer great cost/performance at every price point in their range.
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Your back Bodhi . Play nice :popcorn:
 
hieukm said:
Hi Mike,

Appreciate if you can elaborate your thought on the M3 on a small room(15x12).
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The M3's are not a large speaker (footprint). The sealed box also helps accommodate them into a smaller room. You would obviously want to try them in your particular room to be sure.
 
Mike said:
The M3's are not a large speaker (footprint). The sealed box also helps accommodate them into a smaller room. You would obviously want to try them in your particular room to be sure.
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Yes Mike. Thank you very much. The area I was wondering the most is whether the soundstage depth, width can be improved in comparison to my current S1 mk2 which already fill up the room quite good.

My room is well treated.

P/S: sry to bother with such simple question because auditioning the speakers in my area is very difficult as dealer dont carry stock.
 
hieukm said:
Yes Mike. Thank you very much. The area I was wondering the most is whether the soundstage depth, width can be improved in comparison to my current S1 mk2 which already fill up the room quite good.

My room is well treated.

P/S: sry to bother with such simple question because auditioning the speakers in my area is very difficult as dealer dont carry stock.
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I personally find that Magico's respond to soundstage depth directly proportional to the amount they are into the room. So, you may have to give up something. That being said, I bet it will be similar to your S1 mk2's. I'll have a much better idea once I get my pair next week and start playing with them.
 
LOL, OK i will bring my engine hoist.. :)

I heard sealed woofers work best outdoors next to pools .....Suggestion to Alon, make them in 2 or 3 sections, coupled mass will be the same and you wont need the Avengers.


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