The Power Amp is the bedrock of the system

Mike said:
The room/speaker synergy is most crucial. Some rooms just won’t work with some typology of speaker. Others are made for a particular typology of speaker. Controlled directivity, dipole, Omni, monopole, etc.
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This is so true. A friend who had a large room with high ceilings used Salon 2's and they always sounded great. Another friend bought Salon 2 and they just never approached the same SQ in is room. He even added the big 18" sub they had which helped some but I'm sure glad I heard the speakers in my first friend's room first or my opinion of them wouldn't be the same. Unfortunate dituation.

Not so long ago I heard my speakers require a large room. I have an open doorway in the back of the room that I think saved me. I think my speakers sound great in my room. Playing with placement helped a great deal. I do use room treatments which were like a tweak in my opinion it wasn't the earth shaking change people want to claim. In fact, if you don't get help or have the ability to hear what you are doing you can make things worse. It's like room treatments are the latest bandwagon. It's crazy I think the Auva footers made a larger improvement.

It amazes me how people don't understand the importance of the source. Like other components there can be a difference but sources are all close, there so good, blah blah. If any detail, sound quality is left at the source is just gone nothing downstream will allow that lost detail to be heard. A system needs to be balanced throughout. Your source needs to be good that signal needs to be maintained until it reaches your ears. It starts at the beginning though anything not extracted at the source is just never going to be heard. You may prefer to buy something else first but you simply can't skimp on your source.
 
Mr Peabody said:
This is so true. A friend who had a large room with high ceilings used Salon 2's and they always sounded great. Another friend bought Salon 2 and they just never approached the same SQ in is room. He even added the big 18" sub they had which helped some but I'm sure glad I heard the speakers in my first friend's room first or my opinion of them wouldn't be the same. Unfortunate dituation.

Not so long ago I heard my speakers require a large room. I have an open doorway in the back of the room that I think saved me. I think my speakers sound great in my room. Playing with placement helped a great deal. I do use room treatments which were like a tweak in my opinion it wasn't the earth shaking change people want to claim. In fact, if you don't get help or have the ability to hear what you are doing you can make things worse. It's like room treatments are the latest bandwagon. It's crazy I think the Auva footers made a larger improvement.

It amazes me how people don't understand the importance of the source. Like other components there can be a difference but sources are all close, there so good, blah blah. If any detail, sound quality is left at the source is just gone nothing downstream will allow that lost detail to be heard. A system needs to be balanced throughout. Your source needs to be good that signal needs to be maintained until it reaches your ears. It starts at the beginning though anything not extracted at the source is just never going to be heard. You may prefer to buy something else first but you simply can't skimp on your source.
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Caveat about room treatments and room. People’s claim about room treatments as with all things need to be assessed in the room they are in. Without treatments my current room sucked, with, it’s one of the best I have heard. My last listening room was large and its inherent nodes or lack thereof required much less treatment and additional treatment or even what I had could be interpreted as not earth shattering but just mild improvement beyond baseline

The point is, your experience and room doesn’t define all others just your particular circumstance.

But I agree, getting help is of paramount to obtaining the desired results and optimizing what your room is capable of. Too many think slapping stuff on a wall Willy Nilly is the answer
 
MontanaJoe said:
Caveat about room treatments and room. People’s claim about room treatments as with all things need to be assessed in the room they are in. Without treatments my current room sucked, with, it’s one of the best I have heard. My last listening room was large and its inherent nodes or lack thereof required much less treatment and additional treatment or even what I had could be interpreted as not earth shattering but just mild improvement beyond baseline

The point is, your experience and room doesn’t define all others just your particular circumstance.

But I agree, getting help is of paramount to obtaining the desired results and optimizing what your room is capable of. Too many think slapping stuff on a wall Willy Nilly is the answer
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Good point.
 
When I think of a component that is the bedrock of a system, I think of a component that you build a system around.

I would never build a system around a power amp. It just doesn’t make sense to me. First of all a power amp needs to work well with your speakers, and speakers depend on your room/WAF/your preference of presentation etc. Second it needs to have enough power to play your speakers loud enough for you most of the time, so again depends on what speakers you select. Also a power amp can never fix upstream components, so how is this a bedrock of a system.

That is not to say it’s not important. Everything is important, let’s face it, one bad component and it screws up a system. But the bedrock - I just don’t see it.
 
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