The Future of Audio Research

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Not to mention if you ran the company it would have to move to Florida cause I know you wouldn't go up there into the cold.

Mike said:
Yes! But not one riddled with debt and liabilities that builds tube equipment solely based on Russian tubes that someone else controls the supply of.

I have a lot to say on this topic, but I’m biting my tongue.


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Interesting reading... AR has $1.6M of secured and another $1.0M of unsecured liability, lost money in 2022, and continues to bleed cash. The secured creditor is more than anxious and is attempting to pierce the corporate veil by going after any assets Suggs and his TWS company may have outside of AR. Whew, this is very messy.
 
Been reading the dirty laundry as it's exposed on this site and others. I'm saddened that such an icon like ARC with all of its historical accomplishments is now on the brink. Crushing.

Best wishes for some sort of turn-around or re-birth of the brand for both employees and managerial direction.
 
It will reappear in a couple years in the Wal-Mart electronics isle. LOL Remember Memorex, Acoustic Research or Sansui, amongst others.


MikeCh said:
Been reading the dirty laundry as it's exposed on this site and others. I'm saddened that such an icon like ARC with all of its historical accomplishments is now on the brink. Crushing.

Best wishes for some sort of turn-around or re-birth of the brand for both employees and managerial direction.
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Mr Peabody said:
Doesn't BAT and a couple others use those Russian tubes as well? I wonder if any of them have changed circuits or plan to.
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Yes and our warehouse racks are full of BAT gear that’s been traded in


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The thing that surprises me the most is that hi-end audio has been flourishing the last few years. The industry has been doing well.
 
I’m assuming the concern is the supply of 6H30 Russian tubes? Just re-tubed all my BAT gear with zero issues and have spares for quite a while thanks goodness. Doesn’t VAC use some Russian tubes as well like the 6SN7? I mean (and I’m asking here) aren’t the majority of all new tubes today made by EHX in Russia? Just wondering as i would assume there would be some level of concern for all brands of tube gear with current world affairs and not just for BAT or ARC?

George
 
gadawg said:
I’m assuming the concern is the supply of 6H30 Russian tubes? Just re-tubed all my BAT gear with zero issues and have spares for quite a while thanks goodness. Doesn’t VAC use some Russian tubes as well like the 6SN7? I mean (and I’m asking here) aren’t the majority of all new tubes today made by EHX in Russia? Just wondering as i would assume there would be some level of concern for all brands of tube gear with current world affairs and not just for BAT or ARC?

George
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Porsche said:
this has nothing to do with Russian tubes, that's absurd IMO
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6SN7’s are easily found made in China.

Russian tube prices have double, even quadrupled in price in some cases and there are rarely, if ever, Chinese equivalents. NOS Russian Tubes are extremely rare now as the supplies have all been gobbled up. I heard a rumor a while back that ARC had also stopped selling tubes due to a supply shortage (their online store has been shut down). Maybe someone can confirm this.


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I doubt 6SN7’s are a problem. I would think KT88, KT120, and KT 150 supplies are more of a problem. If someone knows where I can get affordable and good KT88s not made in Russia, I would appreciate knowing.
 
Dizzie said:
I doubt 6SN7’s are a problem. I would think KT88, KT120, and KT 150 supplies are more of a problem. If someone knows where I can get affordable and good KT88s not made in Russia, I would appreciate knowing.
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I don't know what "affordable" means to you, but your KT-88 choices are limited for non-Russian made tubes. JJ Tesla is once choice and Chinese made KTT-88s are another choice.
 
I talked to Eunice Kron the other day and even she doesn’t have four KR KT88’s! I’m sure next week at Munich she will be holding court as usual. Love it.


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Mike said:
I talked to Eunice Kron the other day and even she doesn’t have four KR KT88’s! I’m sure next week at Munich she will be holding court as usual. Love it.


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$315.00 each?
 
Looks like the marketing guys convinced a money guy that they could purchase ARC and make it a success. Maybe not too difficult since they are in marketing.
But the marketing guys knew nothing about running a business and the money guy knew nothing about audio.
Somehow I am not surprised at the outcome.
 
nicoff said:
Looks like the marketing guys convinced a money guy that they could purchase ARC and make it a success. Maybe not too difficult since they are in marketing.
But the marketing guys knew nothing about running a business and the money guy knew nothing about audio.
Somehow I am not surprised at the outcome.
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Wasn't it a marketing guy (former salesman) who bought ARC?

"Audio Research sold by McIntosh Group to former sales director
By What Hi-Fi? published August 25, 2020
It will be owned by TWS Enterprises, a private company owned wholly by Trent Suggs, former Audio Research sales director"
 
Western electric is gearing up to make various tubes. It would be a sad day to see Audio Research go away, here's hoping that a company like WE might acquire them.
 
Mike said:
6SN7’s are easily found made in China.
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Not sure I find much more comfort in depending on Chinese tubes as our relations there aren't heading in the right direction either. I'm hoping that once the war in Ukraine is over tube prices go back down. Just found and ordered some NOS Russian tubes from Ukraine ... I realize they may or may not ever show up ...

George
 
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