The Future of Audio Research

Mike said:
Agreed. Hope he doesn’t sink one to save the other.


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exactely what i thought.
also there is a risk of market anti-synergy. for example as a speaker manufactor you find friends from electronic company to match each other and when you start selling electronics you become
a competitor.
if i remember corect, good old d.wilson statet for this reason he will never sell electronics.
 
i got the impression it is not something that has happened suddenly.
burning cash for quite a while....just with increasing speed with every new problem.
 
According to court docs: secured debt is $1.5 but they have another $1 million in unsecured debt.

If (big if) they actually had 400 back orders - I wonder how many have canceled now? Of course, if the dealers paid some money in advance for these, they can't cancel, but then what about their customers? The fall out could be massive.


u-sound said:
very good point, didnt even come to my mind.

look at this
audio research headqurter - Google Search

the debts is "only" 1,5million while theyr buiding must be worth at least 10 times more.
probably full mortage by now...
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the professor said:
According to court docs: secured debt is $1.5 but they have another $1 million in unsecured debt.

If (big if) they actually had 400 back orders - I wonder how many have canceled now? Of course, if the dealers paid some money in advance for these, they can't cancel, but then what about their customers? The fall out could be massive.
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And don't forget those backorders aren't getting built any time soon with the Ukraine War and the ability to secure the tubes they need to build them.
 
MichaelsMinute said:
And don't forget those backorders aren't getting built any time soon with the Ukraine War and the ability to secure the tubes they need to build them.
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Most if not all the tubes seem to be available from Electro-Harmonix which is who makes the Sovtek 6h30's and many of the other tubes as well. They have gotten quite expensive in the latest batches though as I believe they are having to get creative to get the tubes shipped out of Russia to the West but they are in production and shipping from the American owned factory in Russia.So while there may be a premium to pay I don't believe tube situation right now should make build of new product impossible. Would be interested to hear from the manufacturers what they see going on as I can only say what I've learned in recent email exchanges and purchases with EHX. Had no issues getting complete sets of tubes for all my BAT gear. REXII Pre and 2 REXII Amps.(50 tubes in all) in the past month.

George
 
IMHO, it's difficult to predict with accuracy how ARC will fare long-term give it's (fairly) recent bankruptcy. I say this not to be pessimistic, but rather, realistic. In my experience, for "niche industries" e.g. "high-end audio", it's challenging for a company to stay true to both the vision and maintain the design ethos and quality of the company once the founder and original management team "passes away" and the comany is run by...executives. Usually, the success of these types of companies is the based on passion and singular vision of the founder and their "family", and once that's lost, historically-speaking, things usually go...awry. For example, imagine what would happen to First Watt if Nelson were not around. Personally, I don't want to think of a high-end audio "world" that Nelson is not a part of, so I remain "guardedly optimistic" about the future of ARC. Please just take these comments as only my 2¢; I certainly hope they can remain as successful as they have been historically, but realistically, IMHO, they are facing some real challenges.
 
Agree. If you need a ROI beyond a decent salary, and given the dynamics of the industry with so many more products and options than a decade ago, its a tough ask.
Anyone here want to invest their 401K in ARC?
 
Isn't it premature if not morbid to have a funeral for a company that hasn't died yet?
 
Puma Cat said:
IMHO, it's difficult to predict with accuracy how ARC will fare long-term give it's (fairly) recent bankruptcy. I say this not to be pessimistic, but rather, realistic. In my experience, for "niche industries" e.g. "high-end audio", it's challenging for a company to stay true to both the vision and maintain the design ethos and quality of the company once the founder and original management team "passes away" and the comany is run by...executives. Usually, the success of these types of companies is the based on passion and singular vision of the founder and their "family", and once that's lost, historically-speaking, things usually go...awry. For example, imagine what would happen to First Watt if Nelson were not around. Personally, I don't want to think of a high-end audio "world" that Nelson is not a part of, so I remain "guardedly optimistic" about the future of ARC. Please just take these comments as only my 2¢; I certainly hope they can remain as successful as they have been historically, but realistically, IMHO, they are facing some real challenges.
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From an interview with Nelson Pass I saw, I think it may have been with Mike on his podcast, he mentions he hasn't been to his factory in about 2 years, he works on designs at his ranch and the company is in good hands. Still you'd have to wonder about future innovations after he is gone. I get the impression that Pass is probably a company that will continue well into the future.
 
Mr Peabody said:
From an interview with Nelson Pass I saw, I think it may have been with Mike on his podcast, he mentions he hasn't been to his factory in about 2 years, he works on designs at his ranch and the company is in good hands. Still you'd have to wonder about future innovations after he is gone. I get the impression that Pass is probably a company that will continue well into the future.
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That's because Nelson and Wayne were proactive and strategic in EFFECTIVELY structuring Pass Labs to be innovative and profitable well into the future. This is the result of that thing called...leadership.
 
Not so fast...
Actually they can drink chard all day long and get shit faced without anyone seeing....and they don't have to share....
 
audio.bill said:
Here's the latest status: Will Audio Research Corp Actually Be Acquired by Acora Acoustics? - Strata-gee.com
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As I said before, it’s not just the debt, it’s the liabilities.

$40,000/month in rent. SMH. I’ve been to that facility twice. It’s literally 10 times what they need. You can play football in parts of it and not hit anything.

Here’s my question: did Bill move them to that new giant facility or was it Fine Sounds group?


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