The Cluelessness of Dave Gordon of ARC

[MontanaJoe]

So, this "Brand Ambassador" of the newly re-re-organized Audio Research, has the hubris and lack of circumspection to post what may be one of the most absurd posts that any "brand ambassador" can and has ever posted. Look, I am sure much of my perspective is not shared by at least 50% of you BUT I am not the brand ambassador for 90,000-dollar amps who supports some white-washed socialist/commie who has those who buy Gordon's products in his crosshairs. OR who is offending a huge group of purchasers of "high end audio".

Based on prior posts, I am sure many of you will agree with Dave and his support for a phony socialist, who campaigns with antisemites that have claimed America deserved 9/11, supporter of Hamas, etc. but I am not one of them.

But the above notwithstanding, for this ignoramus and "brand ambassador" of an industry and product that most socialists/commies would use as THE ICON to illustrate the excesses of capitalism is just ironic. You literally can't make this up. I would hope, whoever is now running ARC or owns it would have a little more circumspection than its "brand ambassador" and issue a statement refuting what Gordon posted. I have purchased many ARC products, including REF 10 PRE, dual mono 160s and a host of other ARC products, but until an apology is issued for this will NEVER consider their products again.

I won't go into too much detail regarding my perspective of just how stupid his post is, but to use this imbecile as the voice of Medicare for all, when EL- Sayed's OWN MD WIFE doesn't take Medicaid or Medicare or any other insurance for that matter is hilarious. He supports government regulation to mitigate the excesses of capitalism; Dave Gordon represents the company that defines the excesses of capitalism. He has a problem with the "oligarchs' and their influence, but the biggest oligarchs with the biggest influence are those in DC, like EL-Sayed hopes to become who by the way has never created one single job. And where does Gordon post his inane post? On Facebook one of those so called evil oligarchal companies with too much influence. So, Dave Gordon wants the government to be the arbiter of what is and is not acceptable and what should be "regulated". Talk about slippery slopes. How about let's start with HIM and his company. I say Reference 330M monoblocks for all at 50 bucks.

I guess in today's polarized political world, one's political views just take precedence over all other rational thought, which Gordon OBVIOUSLY LACKS.

 

[Mike]

I don’t understand the hate for Jewish people. I just don’t get it. I’ve had so many Jewish friends over the past nearly 60 years and they’re all so nice and still my friends today. I just don’t get it.

I’m saddened by this.

 

[Kramer64]

I think you have a point. Its absurd to engage in a political debate on an audio forum-we get red faced over vinyl vs digital, so trying to sort out who is a commie and who is a fascist isn't likely to produce anything remotely resembling a reasonable discussion. I agree, however, that if you are the face of a business and your business is selling stuff you can expect to sell less stuff if you choose to inflict your political views on potential customers-that would be no less true if the post expressed undying support for the maga stuff. Mr. Gordon, and everyone else, has a perfect right to express their political opinions-no argument about that, but those who disagree have every right to shop elsewhere and some will. Nothing unfair about that-personal choice. And no one is going to change their opinion because of what any of us post on some internet forum. Its just bloviating for its own sake. For me, music is an escape from all that stuff. I don't know what my primary dealer's political views are-he might disagree with me on everything. It doesn't matter as long as we both keep it to the important stuff-speakers and amps.

 

[MontanaJoe]

I think you have a point. Its absurd to engage in a political debate on an audio forum-we get red faced over vinyl vs digital, so trying to sort out who is a commie and who is a fascist isn't likely to produce anything remotely resembling a reasonable discussion. I agree, however, that if you are the face of a business and your business is selling stuff you can expect to sell less stuff if you choose to inflict your political views on potential customers-that would be no less true if the post expressed undying support for the maga stuff. Mr. Gordon, and everyone else, has a perfect right to express their political opinions-no argument about that, but those who disagree have every right to shop elsewhere and some will. Nothing unfair about that-personal choice. And no one is going to change their opinion because of what any of us post on some internet forum. Its just bloviating for its own sake. For me, music is an escape from all that stuff. I don't know what my primary dealer's political views are-he might disagree with me on everything. It doesn't matter as long as we both keep it to the important stuff-speakers and amps.

Agree with you.

He has EVERY right to express his opinion and since it’s a private company IF his inane comments hurt the business he represents as “brand manager” his boss has every right to do what he/she feels is best for that business. From my perch, if I had a “brand manager” that was so obtuse to make a post like that ESPECIALLY when the so called policies that he supports is so counterintuitive to the business he represents the door would indeed be slammed on his stupid rear end as I kicked him out. BUT that’s me

 

[MontanaJoe]

I don’t understand the hate for Jewish people. I just don’t get it. I’ve had so many Jewish friends over the past nearly 60 years and they’re all so nice and still my friends today. I just don’t get it.

I’m saddened by this.

Yup and I was trying to leave the “Jewish” thing out of it because the offense to us Jews is just one part of it and I didn’t want to focus on that but wanted to focus on the overall stupidity of what he is endorsing given that he is their “brand ambassador”.

 

[Michaels HiFi]

I don’t understand the hate for Jewish people. I just don’t get it. I’ve had so many Jewish friends over the past nearly 60 years and they’re all so nice and still my friends today. I just don’t get it.

I’m saddened by this.

Remember the post from Mastiff Designs along those lines?

 

[MontanaJoe]

Remember the post from Mastiff Designs along those lines?

Yup that one was just blatantly antisemitic whereas Gordon in his ineptitude and lack of circumspection not only buttresses the growing antisemitism of the likes of an El-Sayed but literally endorses a philosophical principle that all but guarantees the demise of the products he is supposedly the “brand ambassador” for.

 

[mep]

Since I refuse to have a FB account, who posted the story on FB?

 

[MontanaJoe]

Since I refuse to have a FB account, who posted the story on FB?

I too have no FB account; however, this was sent to me, and one can still view it. It was an inane post by a "Bruce Fanger", who made a post that sounds more like propagandized naive high school sophomore than any legitimate POV. Dave Gordon in his infinite wisdom, the "BRAND AMBASSADOR" for Audio Research, endorsed the post which was in reference to El-Sayed, senate "candidate" for MI

 

[brad225]

El-Sayed is unfortunately running in Michigan.

 

[MontanaJoe]

El-Sayed is unfortunately running in Michigan.

Yes, my bad. My anger at the "brand ambassador" for that MN company, Audio Research, led me to MN.

Let me correct my post.

Yes, it is unfortunate indeed that this miscreant is running anywhere but THE brand ambassador for Audio Research supports those policies that will all but guarantee the demise of the products he claims to represent. AMAZING

 

[JCS123]

“I am not somebody who is a socialist. I believe in capitalism. I just believe that capitalism has to be regulated.”

Um...........come again?

 

[Michaels HiFi]

“I am not somebody who is a socialist. I believe in capitalism. I just believe that capitalism has to be regulated.”

Um...........come again?

Wait - you think they actually have a clue about what they've been brainwashed to spew?

DSA bigwig struggles to explain what 'taxing the rich' means in embarrassing interview: 'Privileged idiot'​

Gabrielle Fahmy

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One of the top honchos with the Democratic Socialists of America struggled to explain what “taxing the rich” meant and appeared clueless about the Clinton era landmark Israeli-Palestinian peace effort during an embarrassing radio interview with The New Yorker on Friday.

Megan Romer, one of the two national co-chairs of the organization, seemed bewildered by a question from the magazine’s editor David Remnick about one of the DSA’s signature positions.

“Well, what does ‘taxing the hell out of them’ mean?’” Remnick asked on the episode of The New Yorker Radio Hour titled “How Socialist Is the DSA? Megan Romer Explains“.


Romer scrambled to answer questions at various points during the interview. The New Yorker
“Uh, yeah, you know, again, I don’t have like a solid…” Romer awkwardly chuckled.

“But shouldn’t you?” Remnick pressed. “If you’re the co-chair of the DSA, shouldn’t you be more specific than ‘taxing the hell’ out of something? What exactly do you mean?”

“Um, that’s a good question,” Romer said, her eyes widened in shock that someone would challenge her beyond the catchy slogan that was often used by Mayor Mamdani during his campaign.

“So again, it’s democracy, right?” she continued. “And we have to look at what we have to spend and what we need. We don’t want to depend on the existence of millionaires because that means people are still getting exploited.”

Social media had a field day with the clip, which quickly went viral.

“When you realize you took $60,000 out in student loans and can’t answer a single friendly polite question,” slammed media commentator Stephen L. Miller on X.


David Remnick interviewed DSA co-chair Megan Romer for an episode of The New Yorker Radio Hour. The New Yorker
“They have never been challenged on any of this for their entire life, by anyone. An entire generation of privileged idiots.”

Remnick then asked Romer whether the DSA supported a two-state solution or a binational one-state solution — where both Israelis and Palestinians would co-exist under one state — to the decades-long conflict in the Middle East.

Romer picked a different option.

“Our position is a free Palestine with a capital in Jerusalem, so I think that could be safely read as a one state solution,” she proudly stated, making no mention of what would happen to the 10 million people living in Israel.


Mamdani himself has often used the slogan ‘tax the rich,’ a central position of the DSA. Erik Pendzich/Shutterstock
When Remnick followed up by asking whether she would have been satisfied with the Camp David Summit proposal, Romer’s brain appeared to break again.

“Good question,” she said. “I need to look at what the actual specifics there were, I don’t know them off the top of my head.”

Former President Bill Clinton famously brought Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat to the Maryland retreat in 2000, to lay out plans for a two-state solution, but the historic efforts ultimately failed.

 

[mep]

El-Sayed is unfortunately running in Michigan.

Some people don't like it when you correct their mistakes. The dudedoesn'tabide put me on ignore because he called out the wrong bridge in his post on another thread after I corrected him.

 

[MontanaJoe]

“I am not somebody who is a socialist. I believe in capitalism. I just believe that capitalism has to be regulated.”

Um...........come again?

Yes, that slippery slope. We humans never learn from history.

hose useful idiots brainwashed by these evil miscreants are usual the first victims of what they endorse. Then wonder, "how did this happen".

 

[MontanaJoe]

Wait - you think they actually have a clue about what they've been brainwashed to spew?

DSA bigwig struggles to explain what 'taxing the rich' means in embarrassing interview: 'Privileged idiot'​

Gabrielle Fahmy

---

One of the top honchos with the Democratic Socialists of America struggled to explain what “taxing the rich” meant and appeared clueless about the Clinton era landmark Israeli-Palestinian peace effort during an embarrassing radio interview with The New Yorker on Friday.

Megan Romer, one of the two national co-chairs of the organization, seemed bewildered by a question from the magazine’s editor David Remnick about one of the DSA’s signature positions.

“Well, what does ‘taxing the hell out of them’ mean?’” Remnick asked on the episode of The New Yorker Radio Hour titled “How Socialist Is the DSA? Megan Romer Explains“.


Romer scrambled to answer questions at various points during the interview. The New Yorker
“Uh, yeah, you know, again, I don’t have like a solid…” Romer awkwardly chuckled.

“But shouldn’t you?” Remnick pressed. “If you’re the co-chair of the DSA, shouldn’t you be more specific than ‘taxing the hell’ out of something? What exactly do you mean?”

“Um, that’s a good question,” Romer said, her eyes widened in shock that someone would challenge her beyond the catchy slogan that was often used by Mayor Mamdani during his campaign.

“So again, it’s democracy, right?” she continued. “And we have to look at what we have to spend and what we need. We don’t want to depend on the existence of millionaires because that means people are still getting exploited.”

Social media had a field day with the clip, which quickly went viral.

“When you realize you took $60,000 out in student loans and can’t answer a single friendly polite question,” slammed media commentator Stephen L. Miller on X.


David Remnick interviewed DSA co-chair Megan Romer for an episode of The New Yorker Radio Hour. The New Yorker
“They have never been challenged on any of this for their entire life, by anyone. An entire generation of privileged idiots.”

Remnick then asked Romer whether the DSA supported a two-state solution or a binational one-state solution — where both Israelis and Palestinians would co-exist under one state — to the decades-long conflict in the Middle East.

Romer picked a different option.

“Our position is a free Palestine with a capital in Jerusalem, so I think that could be safely read as a one state solution,” she proudly stated, making no mention of what would happen to the 10 million people living in Israel.


Mamdani himself has often used the slogan ‘tax the rich,’ a central position of the DSA. Erik Pendzich/Shutterstock
When Remnick followed up by asking whether she would have been satisfied with the Camp David Summit proposal, Romer’s brain appeared to break again.

“Good question,” she said. “I need to look at what the actual specifics there were, I don’t know them off the top of my head.”

Former President Bill Clinton famously brought Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat to the Maryland retreat in 2000, to lay out plans for a two-state solution, but the historic efforts ultimately failed.

"Tax the rich". To the nitwits, that means tax the shit out of anyone with a nickel more than they have. Where it begins is NEVER where it ends. NY has lost 11 billion in tax revenue in the last 4 years interpreted into actual cash flow subjected to NY taxes, that accounts for 150-200 billion of cash flow LOST. The ripple effect of that lost revenue can be witnessed anywhere you go in NY outside the little insulated enclaves that are slowly being encroached upon by the results of the polices they so endorse.

The two-state solution is to destroy Israel and take over Jerusalem. EL-Sayed and Hasan Piker and NOW Dave Gordon, will tell you how the "two state" solution should work

 

[Michaels HiFi]

"Tax the rich". To the nitwits, that means tax the shit out of anyone with a nickel more than they have. Where it begins is NEVER where it ends. NY has lost 11 billion in tax revenue in the last 4 years interpreted into actual cash flow subjected to NY taxes, that accounts for 150-200 billion of cash flow LOST. The ripple effect of that lost revenue can be witnessed anywhere you go in NY outside the little insulated enclaves that are slowly being encroached upon by the results of the polices they so endorse.

The two-state solution is to destroy Israel and take over Jerusalem. EL-Sayed and Hasan Piker and NOW Dave Gordon, will tell you have the "two state" solution should work

I had a double major in undergrad. One of them was international political science; specifically the Middle East.

I've given up trying to have an intelligent conversation on the Middle East with the "anti-israel' crowd. They know about as much of the history of that region as my 3 1/2 year old granddaughter.

 

[MontanaJoe]

I had a double major in undergrad. One of them was international political science; specifically the Middle East.

I've given up trying to have an intelligent conversation on the Middle East with the "anti-israel' crowd. They know about as much of the history of that region as my 3 1/2 year old granddaughter.

It is an impossibility. Their antisemitism, stupidity and willingness to be brainwashed overwhelms any ability for them to see and understand history and the truth.

Reality is, Israel is 21% Arab and 9% serve in the Knesset. How many Jews in Saudi, Oman, Egypt, Yemen, Iraq, UAE, etc.?? nd how many serves in their governments???? Not to mention that long ago there was a huge contingent of Christians in those countries.

BUT I DIGRESS, as the purpose of my OP was to point out the absolute imbecility of the so called "Brand Ambassador" of Audio Research. His utter stupidity and lack of any circumspection is mindboggling to me.

 

[Kramer64]

“I am not somebody who is a socialist. I believe in capitalism. I just believe that capitalism has to be regulated.”

Um...........come again?

Well, I'm not sure anyone really wants unregulated capitalism. I'd like my water to be clean and the beef I buy at the grocery not to be rancid and I'd like my physician to actually have a medical degree and the wiring in my house be such that it doesn't burn it down. I think its the degree of regulation that is the trick, and the chances of reaching agreement on that are exactly zero %. The chances that there are people on this forum who believe they know to a metaphysical certainty what should be done is about 100%. On we go.

 

[gordon]

Since we're shit talking.