Tesla Model Y Test Drive

vortrex said:
Oh yes, in the future it will cost $1000 to charge a car! Now that makes total sense. You are a genius.
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Federal tax revenues

Federal fuel taxes raised $36.4 billion in Fiscal Year 2016, with $26.1 billion raised from gasoline taxes and $10.3 billion raised from taxes on diesel and special motor fuels.


Then there’s State taxes :

California pumps out the highest state gas tax rate of 66.98 cents per gallon, followed by Illinois (59.56 cpg), Pennsylvania (58.7 cpg), and New Jersey (50.7 cpg).Jul 28, 2021


Not to worry son , things will look a-lot different to you once out of daycare ...!
 
a.wayne said:
Federal tax revenues

Federal fuel taxes raised $36.4 billion in Fiscal Year 2016, with $26.1 billion raised from gasoline taxes and $10.3 billion raised from taxes on diesel and special motor fuels.


Not to worry son , things will look a-lot different to you once out of daycare ...!
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When they apply the tax you’re talking about they’ll make that up and more! Imagine when every house is paying $900/mo in tax on their $100 worth of charging. Wow!
 
No Worries ,


wheel bearing grease works too, we all gonna save charging our electric vehicles on controlled non market driven Gov monopolies ...!


Imagine 70M EV’s charging on a cold winters night ... :)
 
a.wayne said:
No Worries ,


wheel bearing grease works too, we all gonna save charging our electric vehicles on controlled non market driven Gov monopolies ...!


Imagine 70M EV’s charging on a cold winters night ... :)
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Were you this disgruntled when the market went from steam to gas?
 
vortrex said:
I think the interior is great. The seats are so comfortable, better than any car I’ve been in. I like the simplicity of the design. Easy to clean too! That console is ridiculous. I understand though, old people are resistant to change especially when it involves technology.
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That’s the problem with the kids these days. Haven’t seen enough and think first plastic they see is great. And insult the age when they run out of argument.

BTW how old do you think I am, son?
 
kzhtoo said:
That’s the problem with the kids these days. Haven’t seen enough and think first plastic they see is great. And insult the age when they run out of argument.

BTW how old do you think I am, son?
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Not insulting anyone. Common knowledge that older people are more resistant to learning new tech. Kids today are born practically with tablet in hand so something like a Tesla is more natural to them than a console with 37 (I counted) physical buttons. Times change. The point is every car manufacturer is going electric and computerized. Depending on your age you may be able to ride it out until your demise but others will be forced to adapt. Kind of like when TV channels went digital.
 
vortrex said:
Not insulting anyone. Common knowledge that older people are more resistant to learning new tech. Kids today are born practically with tablet in hand so something like a Tesla is more natural to them than a console with 37 (I counted) physical buttons. Times change. The point is every car manufacturer is going electric and computerized. Depending on your age you may be able to ride it out until your demise but others will be forced to adapt. Kind of like when TV channels went digital.
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You keep saying new tech. Do you really think us old farts don’t do new tech? Ever thought it’s the way Tesla is bringing new tech is what being disliked here and not the “new tech” in general?

Yes times change. Future will be dominated by EV or hydrogen. But when I do get an EV it won’t be Tesla. The only thing Tesla is ahead of other EVs is battery technology and I will wait for a proper car company to catch up on that. Note, Taycan.
 
kzhtoo said:
You keep saying new tech. Do you really think us old farts don’t do new tech? Ever thought it’s the way Tesla is bringing new tech is what being disliked here and not the “new tech” in general?

Yes times change. Future will be dominated by EV or hydrogen. But when I do get an EV it won’t be Tesla. The only thing Tesla is ahead of other EVs is battery technology and I will wait for a proper car company to catch up on that. Note, Taycan.
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kzhtoo said:
You keep saying new tech. Do you really think us old farts don’t do new tech? Ever thought it’s the way Tesla is bringing new tech is what being disliked here and not the “new tech” in general?

Yes times change. Future will be dominated by EV or hydrogen. But when I do get an EV it won’t be Tesla. The only thing Tesla is ahead of other EVs is battery technology and I will wait for a proper car company to catch up on that. Note, Taycan.
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That’s great! Porsche would be awesome. You’ll love electric.
 
At this point in my life I look at stereo systems like I look at cars. The more you add to it...the more you take away. I control my simi simple stereo with a remote that changes input and volume and the ipad controls the library and Roon services. The Tesla for me works the same for my driving. The less in front of me the better I like it. I just want the driving and listening experience. If people get off on nobs, switches and moving things around. Go for it. I'm done playing and cleaning those things.
 
vortrex said:
What makes you think the grid won’t be able to handle the charging at night? I would love to know how much capacity is freed up at night compared to the day. If the avg person is driving 45 miles a day that’s only 1hr of home charging. Even if the grid was an issue the cars could all be staggered into charging slots.
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“If every American switched over to an electric passenger vehicle, analysts have estimated, the United States could end up using roughly 25 percent more electricity than it does today. To handle that, utilities will likely need to build a lot of new power plants and upgrade their transmission networks.

“There’s no question that utilities can do this, but it’s not going to be trivial,” said Chris Nelder, who leads the vehicle-grid integration team at the Rocky Mountain Institute. “It takes time and money.” In a recent study, his team found that many utilities and vehicle fleet managers planning to go electric have yet to fully grapple with all the challenges involved.”


Electric Cars Are Coming, and Fast. Is the Nation’s Grid Up to It? - The New York Times
 
TheOctopus said:
“If every American switched over to an electric passenger vehicle, analysts have estimated, the United States could end up using roughly 25 percent more electricity than it does today. To handle that, utilities will likely need to build a lot of new power plants and upgrade their transmission networks.

“There’s no question that utilities can do this, but it’s not going to be trivial,” said Chris Nelder, who leads the vehicle-grid integration team at the Rocky Mountain Institute. “It takes time and money.” In a recent study, his team found that many utilities and vehicle fleet managers planning to go electric have yet to fully grapple with all the challenges involved.”


Electric Cars Are Coming, and Fast. Is the Nation’s Grid Up to It? - The New York Times
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The good news is it will take decades for everyone to go EV. We can assume (hope) the grid will be updated during these decades anyway.
 
TheOctopus said:
“If every American switched over to an electric passenger vehicle, analysts have estimated, the United States could end up using roughly 25 percent more electricity than it does today. To handle that, utilities will likely need to build a lot of new power plants and upgrade their transmission networks.

“There’s no question that utilities can do this, but it’s not going to be trivial,” said Chris Nelder, who leads the vehicle-grid integration team at the Rocky Mountain Institute. “It takes time and money.” In a recent study, his team found that many utilities and vehicle fleet managers planning to go electric have yet to fully grapple with all the challenges involved.”


Electric Cars Are Coming, and Fast. Is the Nation’s Grid Up to It? - The New York Times
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Grossly underestimated...!
 
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