Tannoy and Shindo - A Match Made In Heaven?

Mike said:
I'm a little biased, but another speaker to consider in that price range is the Living Voice OBX-RW. Very tube friendly. I will have a pair on demo soon if you want to come hear them.

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This would be great choice for HB . Love them
 
Paul said:
Hi Craig. I loved the Shindo with Westminsters sounds and always will. I paired them with Vosne-Romanee, Dyquem monos, Montille CV391 and CC80. Each unit has their own unique sounds and loved them all. I found Shindo sounds very musical with Tannoys and there are lot of people enjoying them together. However the dealer I have in Canada and North America distributor are NOT helpful when it comes to purchase shindo gear.

They all say my speakers are not appropriate match with Shindo and so far all my emails has been ignored by the dealer and distributor since I do know I won't get any support by them why would I keep them so sold them all and no regret at all.

I don't know what your situation would be like....and hoping not like mine.

Whatever you decide please don't tell them you have speakers they don't recommend otherewise you will be treated like a ......

I listened Haut Brion and Cortese plus Auriegies with Devore O96 as well. They sounds great I found the HB was bit more polite but I'm sure it will mate well with Westies. I found 18 watts of Dyquem was more than enough power/gain to drive my 15" driver so Haut Brion wouldn't have a problem.

Hope this helps.
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I missed that Paul.
So you got a wonderful sound from the Shindo gear with the Tannoys but sold the Shindo because you cannot have any support from the Shindo dealer and they do not want to hear about your Tannoys ???
Why do you care ? Any great tube technician can service a Shindo properly.
Not much different than servicing an old Mc.
 
Jerome W said:
I missed that Paul.
So you got a wonderful sound from the Shindo gear with the Tannoys but sold the Shindo because you cannot have any support from the Shindo dealer and they do not want to hear about your Tannoys ???
Why do you care ? Any great tube technician can service a Shindo properly.
Not much different than servicing an old Mc.
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It's more complicate than just service issue. I am the customer also I'm in sales business and I treat all my customers equally no matter who they are. My customer comes to my desk and show me the interest in our product and service I respect their thought even if they are wrong. They are my customer and they are the one who bring the food to my table but I felt like a I'm a beggar on the street with them.

Don't you ever go to restaurant and loved the food but service was so bad make you never come back again ? that's how exactly I feel with Shindo dealer and distributor.

Shindo sounds good but I am sure there are lot of company equally good or even better to choose from.
 
Paul said:
It's more complicate than just service issue. I am the customer also I'm in sales business and I treat all my customers equally no matter who they are. My customer comes to my task and show me the interest in our product and service I respect their thought even if they are wrong. They are my customer and they are the one who bring the food to my table but I felt like a I'm a beggar on the street with them.

Don't you ever go to restaurant and loved the food but service was so bad make you never come back again ? thats how exactly how I feel with Shindo dealer and distributor.

Shindo sounds good but I am sure there are lot of company equally good or even better to choose from.
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I get your point Paul.

But did your dealer tell you that he would provide no support because you are using the Shindos with "non recommended" speakers ?

Where I disagree is that I believe that the Shindo sound is very unique. I know how tough the dealers / importers are. They actually reflect Shindo's own philosophy on full system approach.
I went beyond all that and I am glad I did.

No other set up gives me this Joy.
 
Jerome W said:
I get your point Paul.

But did your dealer tell you that he would provide no support because you are using the Shindos with "non recommended" speakers ?

Where I disagree is that I believe that the Shindo sound is very unique. I know how tough the dealers / importers are. They actually reflect Shindo's own philosophy on full system approach.
I went beyond all that and I am glad I did.

No other set up gives me this Joy.
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Jerome. I completely understand how they want to accomplish with system approach and I respect that but I am the customer I will choose what I like to listen/have in my room NOT them. I'm the one who suppose to be in control. I have more story to share but I will stop here.

I sent numerous emails to dealer ( three different sales rep/owner ) but nothing changed
 
Jerome - I know the background story and let's just say, I'm appalled at the treatment Paul has received. It's shameful really.
 
Mike said:
Jerome - I know the background story and let's just say, I'm appalled at the treatment Paul has received. It's shameful really.
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Hi Mike,
I am not surprised.
They have a "Bush" state of mind.
One is on their side or against them. Black and White world.
While the world is green :) !
 
They have lost sight of what it means to serve and build loyalty with customers. They seem to operate under the belief it's all product and brand and you are fortunate they will allow you to own it. Too many stories like Paul's tell me they don't get it and when you're that arrogant, you likely won't anytime soon. That's why I bought 100% outside the network, and have a brilliant local tech to support me. Worth noting his take of Ken's work after going through my pre and amps..."you can tell this was a religion to this guy, there's so much creativity, love and technical discipline in his design and build"
 
I agree that the US Shindo operation doesn't give customers a lot of latitude or help when it comes to matching Shindo with other components. I will say that Glen at Arizona HiFi is very helpful and I have little doubt that he would help me try to assemble the best system, even if it mixed Shindo with other components.

However, for speakers, the distributor and dealers typically point you toward Devore, A23, and Shindo. That means your choices start with the $13k O/96 and jump to $35k-60k+ for the A23 or Shindo line. I recognize the intent to protect the Shindo sound, but I also agree with Paul that it would be smarter of the distributor to give the customer more "acceptable" options in their price range, even if not a brand they distribute, especially since they offer so few options for speakers.

Paul and aurthurs, I know you've already recommended Westminsters as matches for Shindo amps, without reservation. You each have the Westminster GR, but do you have any idea if the SE model would be a good fit for Shindo amps? A used set is more in my price range. I saw that Tannoy recommends 20 watts minimum for the GR and 50 watts minimum for the SE. Also, do you know why the difference between the two?
 
Bongo said:
I agree that the US Shindo operation doesn't give customers a lot of latitude or help when it comes to matching Shindo with other components. I will say that Glen at Arizona HiFi is very helpful and I have little doubt that he would help me try to assemble the best system, even if it mixed Shindo with other components.

However, for speakers, the distributor and dealers typically point you toward Devore, A23, and Shindo. That means your choices start with the $13k O/96 and jump to $35k-60k+ for the A23 or Shindo line. I recognize the intent to protect the Shindo sound, but I also agree with Paul that it would be smarter of the distributor to give the customer more "acceptable" options in their price range, even if not a brand they distribute, especially since they offer so few options for speakers.

Paul and aurthurs, I know you've already recommended Westminsters as matches for Shindo amps, without reservation. You each have the Westminster GR, but do you have any idea if the SE model would be a good fit for Shindo amps? A used set is more in my price range. I saw that Tannoy recommends 20 watts minimum for the GR and 50 watts minimum for the SE. Also, do you know why the difference between the two?
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Sorry but that pricing is wrong. Devore have many suitable models that are priced lower than the O'96's. Auditorium also have speakers that are WAY lower then 35k.
 
Bongo said:
I agree that the US Shindo operation doesn't give customers a lot of latitude or help when it comes to matching Shindo with other components. I will say that Glen at Arizona HiFi is very helpful and I have little doubt that he would help me try to assemble the best system, even if it mixed Shindo with other components.

However, for speakers, the distributor and dealers typically point you toward Devore, A23, and Shindo. That means your choices start with the $13k O/96 and jump to $35k-60k+ for the A23 or Shindo line. I recognize the intent to protect the Shindo sound, but I also agree with Paul that it would be smarter of the distributor to give the customer more "acceptable" options in their price range, even if not a brand they distribute, especially since they offer so few options for speakers.

Paul and aurthurs, I know you've already recommended Westminsters as matches for Shindo amps, without reservation. You each have the Westminster GR, but do you have any idea if the SE model would be a good fit for Shindo amps? A used set is more in my price range. I saw that Tannoy recommends 20 watts minimum for the GR and 50 watts minimum for the SE. Also, do you know why the difference between the two?
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There are many other speakers that can match well with Shindo, than just DeVore, A23 and Shindo.
 
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