Tannoy and Shindo - A Match Made In Heaven?

Nice article Mike,

Thanks for sharing, and Paul........, it strikes me that you've great ears, as someone whom absolutely adores the sound of Shindo Labs, and have said since hearing them at Don Better Audio back in 2010, they're the best sounding tube components I've heard........, yet I can admit, I haven't heard everything out there, but of the brands I've - these have more of what I often refer to as a

" Human Element ", in that it's as if living, breathing human beings are performing right in front of me in such a manner, I can swear I smell Sade's Eau de Parfum as she walks by me to go onstage........., and in my mind, that's as real as it gets.

And what Steve said on the digital thing, holds true.

Enjoy her for many years to come Paul, you've chosen with your heart........., and that's wise I should add.
 
Kt77 said:
" Human Element ", in that it's as if living, breathing human beings are performing right in front of me in such a manner, I can swear I smell Sade's Eau de Parfum as she walks by me to go onstage........., and in my mind, that's as real as it gets.
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OMG....she smiled at me last night LOL ;)

Thanks Oscar :)
 
I'm going to try to Tannoy and Airtight soon. I hope it is a magical combination. Westminster, ref pre and 211 amps. I think I am turning into a tube guy.
 
Paul - this is an old thread, but I'm hoping you'll still get notice of my post. I put my speaker search on hold for a while, but I'm looking again. Thanks for your input in the thread I started about the O/96 versus Zu's. In February, I got the chance to listen to DC10 Britons with Dave the owner of DC10audio. The same day, a Santa Fe owner (probably known to several members) of a full Shindo rig, including Shindo Petite Latour field coils, graciously let me audition the PLs both with my Shindo Haut Brion and Aurieges. It was very interesting to compare the two speakers since I got to use my own amps. Both were quite different, but both were excellent! The DC10audio speakers are the real deal. The Shindo speakers were very refined, and they were surprisingly familiar to my ears, which were accustomed to my now dead Altec 14's! Both designs use horn loaded tweeters with base reflex boxes. I like certain horn loaded speakers, which leads me to ask you about your Westies.

I'm still considering a pair of DC10s and the O/96's, but I've ruled out Shindo speakers as being out of my price range. However, used Westies are often in my range. You and Mike have described the sound as being a knock-out with Shindo amps. Based on guidance from the Shindo dealer and the distributor, I always ruled out Westminsters due to their 5 ohm impedance dip, until I read Mike's review of your system. Now I'm interested again, but I'm still concerned about how they might match with my Haut Brion. Does the 5 ohm dip ever present sonic deficiencies or challenges to your Shindo amplifier?
 
I'm a little biased, but another speaker to consider in that price range is the Living Voice OBX-RW. Very tube friendly. I will have a pair on demo soon if you want to come hear them.

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Thanks Mike. New Mexico to Sarasota is a hike! ...I have been meaning to visit some friends in Orlando.

I did listen to Living Voice speakers with Border Patrol amps at RMAF 2012 - loved the sound.
 
Craig, Did you get a chance to compare the GM70's with your HB powering the Petite Latour? If so, what were your impressions?


Bongo said:
Paul - this is an old thread, but I'm hoping you'll still get notice of my post. I put my speaker search on hold for a while, but I'm looking again. Thanks for your input in the thread I started about the O/96 versus Zu's. In February, I got the chance to listen to DC10 Britons with Dave the owner of DC10audio. The same day, a Santa Fe owner (probably known to several members) of a full Shindo rig, including Shindo Petite Latour field coils, graciously let me audition the PLs both with my Shindo Haut Brion and Aurieges. It was very interesting to compare the two speakers since I got to use my own amps. Both were quite different, but both were excellent! The DC10audio speakers are the real deal. The Shindo speakers were very refined, and they were surprisingly familiar to my ears, which were accustomed to my now dead Altec 14's! Both designs use horn loaded tweeters with base reflex boxes. I like certain horn loaded speakers, which leads me to ask you about your Westies.

I'm still considering a pair of DC10s and the O/96's, but I've ruled out Shindo speakers as being out of my price range. However, used Westies are often in my range. You and Mike have described the sound as being a knock-out with Shindo amps. Based on guidance from the Shindo dealer and the distributor, I always ruled out Westminsters due to their 5 ohm impedance dip, until I read Mike's review of your system. Now I'm interested again, but I'm still concerned about how they might match with my Haut Brion. Does the 5 ohm dip ever present sonic deficiencies or challenges to your Shindo amplifier?
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dlb2 said:
Paul, you mean you haven't blown that little green amp up yet trying to drive those inefficient speakers with their 15" drivers?
I'm glad you've been able to put together your own system, with your own ideas of gear and have it work so well together.
If the Montille sounds terrific with the Westies I wonder how something like a CCQ would sound?

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Heaven on Earth !
The CCQs are my best amps ever.
 
Loop4fun said:
Craig, Did you get a chance to compare the GM70's with your HB powering the Petite Latour? If so, what were your impressions?
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Bill,
Not to railroad this thread, but we did compare them using his Shindo TT. It was really a dream! I was surprised at how wonderful the HB sounded with his equipment - exciting and alive, but also very refined through the Latours. I was even more surprised that I strongly preferred the HB to the GM70's, which came across as somewhat darker, less resolving, and with less punch. Steve said he liked the HB a lot, enough that he opted to spend most of our time listening to it with his Giscours pre. I coudln't necessarily conclude that one amp was better because setup is so important and it almost seemed like something was off.

My takeaway for this thread was that I'm going to limit my budget so that it excludes Shindo or the expensive Auditorium 23 speakers. I am intriged by the Westminster/Shindo proposition, only because Paul and aurthurs seem happy with theirs.
 
Bongo said:
Paul - this is an old thread, but I'm hoping you'll still get notice of my post. I put my speaker search on hold for a while, but I'm looking again. Thanks for your input in the thread I started about the O/96 versus Zu's. In February, I got the chance to listen to DC10 Britons with Dave the owner of DC10audio. The same day, a Santa Fe owner (probably known to several members) of a full Shindo rig, including Shindo Petite Latour field coils, graciously let me audition the PLs both with my Shindo Haut Brion and Aurieges. It was very interesting to compare the two speakers since I got to use my own amps. Both were quite different, but both were excellent! The DC10audio speakers are the real deal. The Shindo speakers were very refined, and they were surprisingly familiar to my ears, which were accustomed to my now dead Altec 14's! Both designs use horn loaded tweeters with base reflex boxes. I like certain horn loaded speakers, which leads me to ask you about your Westies.

I'm still considering a pair of DC10s and the O/96's, but I've ruled out Shindo speakers as being out of my price range. However, used Westies are often in my range. You and Mike have described the sound as being a knock-out with Shindo amps. Based on guidance from the Shindo dealer and the distributor, I always ruled out Westminsters due to their 5 ohm impedance dip, until I read Mike's review of your system. Now I'm interested again, but I'm still concerned about how they might match with my Haut Brion. Does the 5 ohm dip ever present sonic deficiencies or challenges to your Shindo amplifier?
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Hi Craig. I loved the Shindo with Westminsters sounds and always will. I paired them with Vosne-Romanee, Dyquem monos, Montille CV391 and CC80. Each unit has their own unique sounds and loved them all. I found Shindo sounds very musical with Tannoys and there are lot of people enjoying them together. However the dealer I have in Canada and North America distributor are NOT helpful when it comes to purchase shindo gear.

They all say my speakers are not appropriate match with Shindo and so far all my emails has been ignored by the dealer and distributor since I do know I won't get any support by them why would I keep them so sold them all and no regret at all.

I don't know what your situation would be like....and hoping not like mine.

Whatever you decide please don't tell them you have speakers they don't recommend otherewise you will be treated like a ......

I listened Haut Brion and Cortese plus Auriegies with Devore O96 as well. They sounds great I found the HB was bit more polite but I'm sure it will mate well with Westies. I found 18 watts of Dyquem was more than enough power/gain to drive my 15" driver so Haut Brion wouldn't have a problem.

Hope this helps.
 
I bought Paul's CC80 and they are outstanding on my Westies and have plenty of control. The Shindo setup will always be my primary option for my Tannoys. I have a great local tech who has gone over all my pieces and therefore I won't ever need the support of the dealer and distributor network, but agree with Paul on his perspective on that situation.
 
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